RE:Terroristss
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
ya i guess LTTE, Naxals, ULFA, IRA, Nazis.. etc are all muslims... wow we muslims do have quite a reach!! Well Laurie dont think that repeating something like a parrot will make it true.
While fundamentalism, superstition, ignorance, lack of human rights, female genital mutilations, forced seclusion of women within their houses and in their hijabs; religious extremism, fundamentalism, suicide-bombing and Islamic terrorism continue to be the hallmarks of the Muslim states and societies under the influence of the Saudi Islamic Spiritual Empire of the petro-dollars or Iranian Shiite area of influence under its Shiite oil-money; it is high time for the civilized world to wake-up from the stupor of multi-culturism and blind tolerance of the organized intolerance; for the disease is spilling herein already. Many of the acts of the Islamic states and societies, organizations and individuals are barbaric and medieval; the beheading of the innocent hostages, death penalties and murders for religious reasons; chopping of hands and feet; stoning to death of women for getting raped or on accusation of natural sexual intercourse; honor-killing on mere suspicion, suicide-bombings and acts of terrorism; these are indicative of a deep-seated disease. Murder on the name of a merciful Allah is mere hypocrisy.
RE:Wake up everyone
by Imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Dude can u debate any of the points I have writeen arent they right. If u r not smart enough to do it then jsut keep quiet.
RE:Wake up everyone
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
debate is only to be done with people who have brains and can argue abt facts. need i say more?
RE:Wake up everyone
by Imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Thats the normal way muslims react u are just zakir naik chelas go and pray for asar namaaz or allah will burn u in hell
RE:Wake up everyone
by Boss Don on Oct 25, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
Mr.Seeker, Imran is right go to asar namaaz and also read some article of Dr.Zakir Naik and improve your IQ to defeat Mr.Imran urf David. B.T.W Mr.Imran what r u doing? Wasting your employer time and internet. You r a flow hero.
There is no place for optimism for a liberal Islam. Nearly all Islamic states and states have failed to appreciate the basic human rights of their people, their women and their minorities. Saudis and Emirates are the worst offenders; and are the financial godfathers of fundamentalism, extremism and Islamic backwardness everywhere.. Nearly every Islamic country is dangerous not only for itself but for the world as a whole. Pakistan, for example, after supplying Iran and with Korea with nuke-secrets continues to offer the dangerous technology; Vietnam and Brazil are the new customers. The nuke-terrorist Dr. Abdul Qadir Kahn is safe, well protected and facilitated by the State of Pakistan, with full impunity, of course.
You civilized people! Yesterday you refused to acknowledge the dangers inherent in the rise of the Christian Nazi and Communist ideologies. Yesterday you supported Islamic Taliban even when they trampled rights of their women under their feet. Your refusal to confront militant Islam today may cost us more dearly than our individual lives-our cherished achievement -our civilization. Beliefs have consequences-the centrality of Islam to mental, social, intellectual and cultural backwardness; organized offences against women and minorities; fundamentalism, extremism and modern terrorism are impossible to deny. "Religions of peace and tolerance" are mere empty words.
RE:Beware
by DEV ASHISH on Oct 25, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
Imran, u have read a lot! Keep reading such good things....enlighten people on rediff, else where.
RE:RE:Beware
by DEV ASHISH on Oct 25, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
Lemme tell you all the religions just teach hatered...alas the world would have been without any religion. aameen!
RE:Beware
by Imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
Dear Seeker in no other religion people give up their lives for religion except islam. Muslims fail to understand my intentions I want them to improve in society and not follow age old beliefs. So many of my relatives are so religious they dont give a damn to educate their children so their conditions are so bad. Islam promises them another life after death which is why they are not bothered about this life. I really feel for the muslims they have been cheated big time by mohammed.I'm using this forum to voice my opinion but I see that mulsims dont wnat to reach the truth they jsut wnat to blindly follow.
Dear Frenz,I am a muslim but proud to b an indian, i wanna mention that with such issues we r just arguing and fighting with ourselve as in the whole world its only us (INDIANS )that say HUM EK HAI. regarding the rights and bomb blast i consider our government culprits as number of persons are arrested in blast but whats the use for that even though we know the culprits then to our govt takes 14 years for the case STRIGH forward HANG THEM who ever it is and the same punishment should b to the peoples who spread rights. RELIGION SHOULD NOT BE SEEN.
RE:Complete game of politics.
by imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
but i wil also say muslims are better than hindus coz they have sense not like u creatures
become jihadis and become 7th century mujahideen-jihadi-terrorist.
they r funing madrassas with oil money even in india to keep muslims under the grip of mullas
and keep them uneductaed and backward look at pakistan,bangladesh and even saudi arabia etc,where women hv no rights.
as a secular and democracy loving country and especially muslims they must push for secular democracy in saudi arabia,and once there is secular democracy established the progress will
come automatically,as has happened with india.
so root of the point is that india and indian
muslims must must must must push for secular democracy in saudi arabia,and as a knock on effect the muslims will also see the world over that its important to modernise and not focus yr way of life on 7th century arab stone age
as taliban and saudi arabia r doing.
there is no freedom of speech in saudi arabia
and not even 1 good world level technical instituted like iit in saudi arabia but thousands of masjid and stuff.
indian muslims must push for reform the world over and start with saudi arabia,and once this
happens and secular forces win and jihaids r defeated then muslims world over will rejoice.
pls help do this mr.utal and other like minded muslims.
RE:saudi arabia is root of muslim backwardness
by imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
Dear
Sorry to say but u dont have n e knowledge regarding IT institutes saudi dosent requires it as its the only 1 religious and Islamic country in the world where our Mecca and Madina is located. so better have some knowledge of religion before writting n e thing shit outta ur mind.
RE:saudi arabia is root of muslim backwardness
by Vostro on Oct 25, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
@ girish,
dude, screw saudi, i don%u2019t care about that, lets talk about India and accept that there are places in India where we have fundamentalist and extremist existing in both the communities, it all started with the help of leaders of parties who supported building temples (which is still incomplete inspite of the leaders ruling for 5 yrs) but again nothing wrong in that, it is the killing of people that is the problem, as long as you have not lost anyone in the riots, or the silly terror attacks you will not understand the plight.. Hate breeds hate and that is what happening.. which I think should be stopped
RE:saudi arabia is root of muslim backwardness
by Hindustani on Oct 25, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
It is true that Islamic extremism has spread because of Wahabism which being propagated and financed by Saudi Arabia. In fact all Al Quaida members are believers of Wahabi idiology.
RE:saudi arabia is root of muslim backwardness
by hakeem on Oct 25, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Worry about the rights of woman in your country first and then harp about the rights of muslim woman in saudia arabia, pakistan bla, bla, bla. Reforms begin at home!
Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy! Your country is a so called Secular Democratic Republic >)
Saudis are more modern than you probably think sitting on the wheel chair of your home. But if modernity means nakedness they are not or atleast they dont allow this in public!
There is no restriction what so ever in the comforts of their homes.
There is hardly any saudi money in madarasas anywhere in the world let alone in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. If you happen to know much more than us please present us some proofs of such transfers! or elser shut your dirty mouth malignaning an entire nation that is the cradle of a world civilisation.
RE:@Utkal Mohanty
by Ashu tosh on Oct 25, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
You have totally diverted from the issue. Crime against innocent people (no matter which religion, caste or gender they belong) can not be justified at any cost. By doing so your thoughts resemble with terrorists.
Today, we live in globalised world not in Vijay Nagar. Lets try to become a nice human being only. Rest would be nice.
Its a truth that Muslims in india are side lined & treated as parasites. The fact is , this is the community which ruled india for 700 years or so. They have culture. Because of political ignorence , they are backward & suffering.
RE:Muslim in India are forgotten
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
You are wrong Viren. Moghuls and Turks ruled over India not muslims. The same Moghuls are now ruling over Pakistan and causing mayhem in India. I have no evidence to show that regular Indian muslims have any hand in terror or have anything to do with Al Qaeda.
RE:Muslim in India are forgotten
by imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
Vikram dont ever abuse n e religion people like u r the 1 who spreads rights and blast u kindda people should b hanged first , i can also abuse u but i respect each and every religion u dumb.
RE:Muslim in India are forgotten
by Sanjay Guevera on Oct 25, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
Very tru Vikram--increase in population-Lalu 9 children,P.V Narsimha Rao 6 Children-My grand Father Ram Badan Rai 13 Chlidren All are muslims. Dear the population is not a religious Phenomena but a social-economical Phenomena.
Parbhakaran (lTTE) NALINI(RAJEEV GANDHI ASSAINATOR) ALL ULFA MILITANTS ALL MOIST DADUA NIRBHEY GUJJAR All are Muslims Very good knowledge
RE:Muslim in India are forgotten
by imran on Oct 25, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
u r mother is a mada_rC__hod i wil tell osama bin laden to take her and Ra_p_e her vikram
