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RE:he is still here
by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:24 AM  Permalink
Topic: Islam

Expert: Yasser
Date: 4/20/2007
Subject: confused

Question
QUESTION: salam, you seem to have a real hate for islam for what reasons i do not understand. you claim islam is a violent and dangerous religion yet it preaches peace. you seem to be confused and mislead. but i do not blame you fully. you seem these pictures and videos of people swear by allah s.w.a and killing people. you need to understand that it is the people who are doing wrong not the religion. i have no right ins saying this but those who claim to be muslims and kill are not muslims, why do i say this? because in islam it says killing someone is as if you just killed the whole of man kind. so how can you say islam is a violent religion. i want you to see it this way. you have a glass of pure water. you add some dirt to it, the water is no longer pure. same with islam, you add things to islam then it anit islam no more but a whole new religion.
i do not understand why you believe women who cover are forced. would you not prefer a women who has self respect and covers her self in modesty or one who shows all and does every thing under the sun. if a man was to choose to rape (god for bid) a covered women or one whom shows all, which do you think he would pick. its simple knowledge.
i have also come to realize, why don't people say anything about nuns. do they not cover from head to toe. u hate what you do not know. what religion are you may i ask.
please if you have questions i am more then happy to

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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:24 AM  Permalink
please if you have questions i am more then happy to help you but please remember that is life promises nothing. you shall die one day. then where do you think you shall go then. insulting god does you no favors. you will know all this when the angel of death comes to you and takes your soul. your last breath has gone and your life wasted. punishment of the grave then awaits, after that hell fire for ever. for ever does not mean one hour or one day. it shall never stop. please for your own sake open your eyes and see the truth.
salam and inshallah you shall become a better person.
ANSWER: Salaam Hanna

When did I say that Islam is violent? When did I insult God? When did I say that I hate Islam? I'm here to show to people that the Koran is a beautiful book and that Islam is misrepresented.

I simply mean to say that the Islam we have today is barbaric and corrupted, as it is based mostly on Hadeeths. I believe that real Islam is based only on the Koran. If you bring Hadeeths in Islam, Islam becomes a violent & barbaric religion. Most Hadeeths go againt the Koran. Will you still follow them, even if they go against God's Word? You should understand that Hadeeths are not really the actual sayings of Muhammad but mostly lies and forgeries.


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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:25 AM  Permalink
IT IS HADEETHS WHICH INSULT GOD. I request you that you read the Hadeeths once yourself and come to your own conclusions. I get many questions like this so I request you to see these 2 replies that I gave here:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/hadeeth-4.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/view-towards-hadeeth. htm

I also recommend that you see these:
http://www.free-minds.org/articles/politics/lose.htm
http://www.free-minds.org/articles.htm#hadith

As for women covering themselves from head-to-toe, I've nothing against it. What I mean to say is that God never ordered such a thing.
See http://free-minds.org/women/scarf.htm

I know that God will judge everyone on the Last Day and that is why I rejected the Hadiths because Hadiths go AGAINST God and His teachings. Would you still follow them?

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions and I'll be glad to answer them.

God bless

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RE:he is still here
by Ganapati Hegde on Oct 16, 2007 01:34 AM  Permalink
Racer,



I am sometimes forced to think hard on your comments. After all there is no proof that God exists. It is more a question of faith. Lenin rightly said that " Religion is the opium of the masses".



I think, it is religion and religion alone, which is caused untold destruction, damage and misery to the human civilization. There were crusades fought because of religion. Hitler killed Jews because of their religion. There was partition on basis of religion and Lakhs of Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs died.



It is a very hard question to ponder. If there is so much death and destruction to the humankind. Why there is religion ???



If a religion does no good to mankind it is totally worthless.



I am of the belief, evil people have manipulated religion and are perpetuating death and destruction on the happless people.

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by Ganapati Hegde on Oct 16, 2007 01:38 AM  Permalink
Jon thomas,



Why do you call me a genocide supporter ??



I firmly believe no person should be killed, atrocities committed on them or harassed/intimidated.





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by Ganapati Hegde on Oct 16, 2007 01:56 AM  Permalink
Narendra Modi is a staunch nationalist and a patriotic person. He is firmly against any kind of terrorism. The post Godhra riots was simply an event which went out of control. Lots of Hindus also died in the riots. It was a very sad and unfortunate incident. We need to overcome it and our thinking should not be paralysed by it.



Modi tried his best to control the riots. It is the leftist media and Kangressis spreading rumours to malign him.



What about the Sikh massacare organised by the Kangressis. Those guys who were directly involved are Central Ministers now.

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RE:its so funny how that jon thomas guy got exposed with all his id's
by aaaa on Oct 16, 2007 01:13 AM  Permalink
honestly mate; i am a born hindu and your rhetoric with filthY language made me crawl. I can't believe there are people who use such a colorful language on anyone eventhough you may not see that person Jon Thomas at all in your life.

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RE:its so funny how that jon thomas guy got exposed with all his id's
by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 01:16 AM  Permalink
wow still aaa is there,Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu

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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:16 AM  Permalink
Islam: confused
I believe that real Islam is based only on the Koran. If you bring Hadeeths in Islam, Islam becomes a violent & barbaric religion. ...
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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:14 AM  Permalink
Islam is a 6th century barbaric and murderous religion - Reader ...
Islam is a 6th century barbaric and murderous religion - Reader comments on blog entry: Dhimmitude in Practice.
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RE:its so funny how that jon thomas guy got exposed with all his id's
by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:22 AM  Permalink
and u guys suck Piggy c--------ck?

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by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 01:21 AM  Permalink
Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu

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RE:its so funny how that jon thomas guy got exposed with all his id's
by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 01:27 AM  Permalink
Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu

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RE:CHECK BARBARIC RELIGION IN GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 16, 2007 01:04 AM  Permalink


hehe...true. I just verified:)-



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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 16, 2007 01:05 AM  Permalink


And this is the top 100 results:)-



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RE:CHECK BARBARIC RELIGION IN GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!
by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:06 AM  Permalink
"Googles report"
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... who still live in the dark ages that poor girl has to suffer again at the hands of allahs priests i,e the mullahs and imans a more barbaric religion you ...
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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:07 AM  Permalink
Islam, the Barbaric Religion
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RE:RE:CHECK BARBARIC RELIGION IN GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!
by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:09 AM  Permalink
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RE:CHECK BARBARIC RELIGION IN GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!
by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 01:07 AM  Permalink
good catch, ur write, its barbaric in many countries.

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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:08 AM  Permalink
YouTube - Is islam barbaric religion?
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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:11 AM  Permalink
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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:14 AM  Permalink
Islam is a 6th century barbaric and murderous religion - Reader ...
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Goodnight boys
by Prabhanjan Butshikan on Oct 16, 2007 01:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies





So no one wants to debate on points raised by Govardhan.



Instead, keep abusing each other.



Bye!

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RE:Goodnight boys
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 16, 2007 01:02 AM  Permalink


Remember to do what Prophet said in his last speech :)-



Man, U was horrified reading it few days back.

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 16, 2007 01:02 AM  Permalink


* I was

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RE:Goodnight boys
by aaaa on Oct 16, 2007 01:06 AM  Permalink
honestly i am not enjoying replying to your rhetoric. Nothing thoughtful at all from you. You just keep on repeating the same thing without any purpose just to incite people and I am wasting time spending time thinking and writing. What is the point.



Finally with your handle you are giving a bad reputation to tamils in india. It does seem like you sympathize with the srilankan tamils and that too people who fight using kids. That is awful period.



I would rather watch simpsons on a cold afternoon here.

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by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 01:03 AM  Permalink
over smart, not again with a hindu.

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by aaaa on Oct 16, 2007 01:09 AM  Permalink
how can you look at yourself in the mirror after talking like this maate.

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RE:ALL CRIMINALS HAS GONE FROM GUJURAT DUE TO DYNAMIC LEADERSHIP OF PROPHET NARENDRA MODI....
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 16, 2007 01:00 AM  Permalink


By terming them criminal, you are minimizing them yaar!



These are Jehadi foot-soldiers.



Dawood became D-Company in Gujarat. So were many other gang lead by Muslim Jehadis.



Now, they have been completely eliminated from Guj.



Its these groups who bring gun, grenades, RDX from pakisland thro; borders, boats.

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by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:02 AM  Permalink
these goons have not been served shit cake in mosque.

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RE:RE:ALL CRIMINALS HAS GONE FROM GUJURAT DUE TO DYNAMIC LEADERSHIP OF PROPHET NARENDRA MODI....
by zinawar on Oct 16, 2007 01:04 AM  Permalink
a terrorist population of of more than 100 crores all over globe n still they feel danger of elimination,surprising

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RE:Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu
by aaaa on Oct 16, 2007 12:53 AM  Permalink
the day after tomorrow Sri Sri's Art of Living is organizing Stand up for Poverty. Go paarticipate. DO you need any more proof to help ur thinking?

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by eelamtigers on Oct 16, 2007 12:56 AM  Permalink
what happned to anti modi's triad,Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu.try to respect all u get respect from all don disguise n divide, ull be the same onday.

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RE:Prabhanjan Butshikan=jonthomas=aaa=D=xtian=anti hindu
by aaaa on Oct 16, 2007 12:58 AM  Permalink
shut up mate. Your thinking sucks.



I dont give a rat's ass about friggin politicians. All i want people is to think above region, language, caste etc., that has been the bane of people and politicians are adept in using it.

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