Organized religion is the bane of humanity. How can one individual imply to another that they are inferior or "impure". When you dont have the power to create life you dont have the right to demean life. Shame on all the people here who think that being born into one caste, community or religion makes any better than everyone else. It is high time people realise that religion is a man-made institution and it is the main cause of half the major conflicts in the world and it is not serving the purpose it was created for.
RE:Brahmanical arrogance
by Abhishek A on Jun 04, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
why dont u ask this same question to muftir who says non muslims cant build mosque when muslims do it it is secular n when HINDUS do it it is communal ? whta thinking u ppl have in ur heads
Hinduism is the only reliogion which has toleratyion because it spreads love the love of truth humaniyt n the l;ove of god n some people like you who do not undertsand the principles need some learning plz go learn abt hinduism which prevails as the most loving n adoring
RE:RE:Brahmanical arrogance
by preethi patel on Jun 06, 2007 03:22 AM Permalink
I dont understand what your point is. Can you please clarify? I am not pointing a finger at any particular religion. I am talking about all and any organized religion in general.
RE:Ravi is diverting the issue
by warren pinto on Jun 04, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
ravi's son is a hindu...but it seems in hinduism temples are only for the upper castes
Hello readers, What happend to Vayalar Ravi and purification act did in the temple is really sad. I don't know people are educated but does not know what God is looking for in the humanbeings.God did not create the castes but he sees the heart of a person. If your heart is corrupted and enters temple GOD NO WAY FEELS HAAPY whatever caste he may belongs to. But if a person is pure in heart or cries to God for his sinful nature then god accepts that person and temple will be blessed thru such persons.
RE:Guruvayar temple
by Abhishek A on Jun 04, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
y Abhishek A on Jun 04, 2007 09:06 PM
why dont u ask this same question to muftir who says non muslims cant build mosque when muslims do it it is secular n when HINDUS do it it is communal ? whta thinking u ppl have in ur heads
Hinduism is the only reliogion which has toleratyion because it spreads love the love of truth humaniyt n the l;ove of god n some people like you who do not undertsand the principles need some learning plz go learn abt hinduism which prevails as the most loving n adoring
1. Ezhavas were NEVER disallowed into Guruvayur temple. Temple entry proclamation allowed Dalits. Ezhavas were NOT Dalit, but OBCs. right?
2. So the question of Ezhava Vs Brahmin does NOT arise as opined by V Ravi.
3. CAN RAVI CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT NO XTIAN (HIS WIFE OR SOME RELATIVE FROM HER WIFES SIDE) DID NOT ACCOMPANY HIS GRANDSON"S FEEDING CEREMONY?
4. Why Ravi is NOT taking up the matter with Temple authorities and SNDP? WHY HE IS SFFERING FROM EGO and Unleashing Caste divide in already fragile Kerala where Hindus are getting minority in another decade or two?
RE:Please correct me if I am wrong
by wani bhardwaj on Jun 04, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
Vayalr Ravi is creating an atmosphere in Kerala that Guruvayor Temple Authroties denying entries to him and his wife and children(Wife is Christian, I think so) because of his OBC status. He is playing with fire and is creating communal disturbance which is always their party is doing in the entire country for the sake of strengthening his party's family rule in India. Hindus everywhere in the country, can go and make darshan in any place in India including Guruvaoor. But it doesn't mean that Hindu Temples should be opened for the other non-believers and religions. When he planned to marry a non hindu, they should atleast understant the repercussions on the thinking and prayings to God. Do not force to change the rules and destroy Hindu's Culture. There are number of problems country is facing. He is a Minister and do his job. Don't play with religion.
RE:NO MORE MR NICE GUY
by Rohit on Jun 04, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
Catholics consider themselves evil creatures who were destined for purgatory, if not hell itself. Recognizing their divine spark automatically bestowed what we today would call 'self-esteem' or confidence - the magic ingredient in the process of fulfilling one's potential. This was the key to the Renaissance as a whole, and the fearlessness it induced can be seen in the sudden opening up of the world through circumnavigation and exploration. Worse still, as far as the Church was concerned, this notion of individual potential for godhood implied that women were as good as men, at least spiritually. Gnostic women had always had a voice, and even officiated at religious ceremonies: this was one of the major threats that Gnosticism posed to the Catholic Church. Moreover, the idea of mankind's essentially divine status did not accord with the Christian idea of 'original sin'' - the idea that all men and women are born sinful because of the Fall of Adam and Eve (especially the latter). Because all children are the result of the 'shameful' sex act, that idea inextricably linked women and children in a kind of everlasting conspiracy against pure men and a vengeful God. Gnostics and hermeticists, on the whole had no truck with 'original sin'.
The question is if I am not a Hindu I should or should not be allowed in a Temple or not. Is our GOD so fragile that if a Christian or a Sudra enters the temple, there will be catastrophie. Dont we Hindus believe in Panenthiesm, which is, God exists everywhere and beyond? That means God exist in the body of a christian or anyone, even who does not believes in GOD (I mean Commies). So what is the controversy. I dont care what other major religions think about it, but I as a Hindu, believe that we all are part of God and thus cleansing ceremony is foolish..
RE:The question should be more fundamental
by nair on Jun 04, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Well said. God existing everywhere but bloody politain divide people for vote.
RE:RE:The question should be more fundamental
by Sanjay Baxi on Jun 04, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
No, they have reigned over us because we were not united, because of our caste system, and if you want to survive, you must unite, like the others....
RE:The question should be more fundamental
by Sanjay Baxi on Jun 04, 2007 09:12 PM Permalink
That is wrong, one can be a Hindu even if he does not believe in Rituals. Ritual is only a part of Hinduism. In Hinduism there are several Yogas like Karma, Vakti, Gnan yoga etc. Following one is good enough. Going to temple is part of Vakti yoga, and even I dont believe in I am still a Hindu.
Hinduism is much bigger then you can imagine, first know your religion well, and then preach.
No other religion can be matched with it, it is unique. If you try to match Hinduism with any other religion then you are making a mistake. Hinduism existed much before all the western religion. Hinduism never says that only my god is right and all other Gods are wrong. Hinduism is not one religion, westerners have named it as one religion, for the sake of simplicity.
Hinduism is a religion that has a cosmic vision. We worship innumerable aspects of Nature. Then why belittle ourselves by ill-treating Man which is the supreme creation of Nature. Wake up Hindus and live in the present and listen to your conscience. I myself am a Hindu in the broadest sense.
History is witness- Hinduism has accepted every philosophy as long as time goes and It's not imagination of a bhahmin. Brahmins in the earlier days were the one who spread the message of bhakti and love. There was no caste system in Vedas-days. It's time all educated and broad minded brahmins should come together and denounce and reject caste system in hindus. I hope some of high profile priests will also join the band wagon.
RE:hindus
by Sanjay Baxi on Jun 04, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
Well said, the only thing that is keeping us backward, socially, econmically and politically, is our caste system. This is preventing us as Indians to be united. We have not learnt from our past, where we have been invaded by the foreigners, time after time, because we were not united. We must remove it from our mind. Caste system is a Great Evil. It was created by some greedy people in the past to exploit the mass. because of this caste system we are marrying our children within the close family and this is leading to weak progeny.
RE:hindus
by Abhishek A on Jun 04, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
nice name aawara uncle ur name shopws what character ur
I will explain u the caste system but the problem is u r not so educated to ubnderstand Bhagawad Gita or rather ur unfortiunate tht u cannot understand the HOLY BOOK OF THE WORLD
