It is seen that Mr Vylar Ravis son entered Guruvayoor temple twice and the temple was purified. Mr Ravi and his son should understand that their entry wasd not prohibited and the temple was purified after their departure. Ms Mercy may be believing hinduism, but in that case there are ways to get entry into the temple and one should follow some procedure what Xians and Muslims are doing before the conversion Why it is not done. Being a responsible person, unwanted creations by telling that he is an Ezhava or thiyya is not correct. There is no problem for any Hindus in entering the temple irrespective of the caste. Why he is creating a bad atmosphere.There are certain principles to be followed by Hindus when they are entering into the temple which other religion are not all concerned. However it is better not to go and criticise the temple authorities who have their own rights and by laws.If any body want to enter Guruvayoor Temple let them follow that.
While a lot noise can be made, there is a difference between the 'brahmanism' and a 'Shuddhi' in a temple. Bramhin is one who knows 'Brahmam'. Temple rituals are meant to maintain the 'Shuddhi' within. It is a belief/practice, that non-Hindus - who are not accustomed to those may not follow this. Not to assume that all Hindus or Brahmins maintain this. But it is a matter of faith. But devotion is far far superior to this even accroding to Hindu scriptures. So if a 'devotee' seeks Darshan we can not deny that. But surely - it can not be a picnic. It is appaling to see that Pandits in Guruvayoor has taken a political view of this - one day saying yes, another day saying and no. And also in a unilateral way without involving all sections of Hindu society.
RE:I am surprised why even the Pandits can not come out with facts
by Funmanu on Jun 04, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
This is exactly why Swami Vivekananda called Kerala a mental asylum. Using caste sysetm to individuals advantage is not uncommon. Guruvayoor welcomes thief's like Karunakaram and Murali but when it comes to commoners , the standards are very different.
Having Masters and Bachelors degrees does not make one educated. Kerala is a standing proof of this.
RE:sorry to the real hindoos
by Rohit on Jun 04, 2007 09:09 PM Permalink
That is not your fault. That is because of the culture of intolerance you was braught up.
RE:sorry to the real hindoos
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 06:34 AM Permalink
I think it is not fair on your part to turn a man's good behavior to translate into a negative thing of his culture. If at all, I appreciate williams for having the guts to own up to his mistakes, unless so many guys here who stick to their guns whatever proof comes up to the contrary.
It seems now a days with any politician to target brahmins. why don't they raise the issuue with other religions who do not allow to enter the persons of other religions to enter their place of worship?
RE:why only target brahmins?
by Rohit on Jun 04, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
because Brahmins are less in number, does'nt react violently and not an organised vote bank they have to fear.
RE:why only target brahmins?
by rajeev sharma on Jun 04, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
i agree with you...that is because Ravi don't have guts to speak against them...
The first one is saying Nair and Namboodthiri, both aare matriarchal, which is not the case. Namboothiri, the Kerala Brahmin follows Patriarchism.
The second one is saying Guruvayoorappan is an avatar of Lord Krishna. He is not considered as avtar of Krishna, but Krishna himself, more specifically Krishna as an infant.
And the third is Ravi saying the whole issue is because he is of backward caste Ezhava. The issue was his wife being Christian and Hindu Temples in Kerala does'nt allow non hindus to enter temple premises. So his son was not considered a Hindu because his mother was Christian.
Ravi has every right to feel aggrieved but being a responsibe citizen and a leader of status he should not distort facts ang give it a casteist colour. Especially in Kerala's background where casteism is not at all prevelant.
And besides all Guruvaayoor Temple gets frequent terrorist threats. Allowing any Tom Dick and Haarry to the centureis old shrine is non acceptable.
And temples in Kerala adhere to strong rituals like not allowing people to have non veg food and go inside it. Non Hindus won't adhere to such strict regimen.
RE:Three Wrong Points in the Article
by srini krishnan on Jun 04, 2007 09:23 PM Permalink
Vayalar is after all a politician. He has to be in the news at any cost, lest people will forget him. He is neither a reformer nor an evolved citizen. He wants to steal lime light, thats all. Please ignore the entire episode. All the Ezhava community people also know the truth.
It is not a Brahminical Arrogance. The rituals is followed in this temple for hundreds of Years.
How it will become suddenly Brahminical arrogance, that when we follow the Agamas of the temple which is laid out by the ancestors.
Mr. Vayalar Ravi is degrading himself as Lower Caste, but not in the eyes of Lord Guruvayurappan.
Agamas has to followed when it is laid for the benefit of the humanity.
The Hinduism is being destroyed by imical comments by the people considering themselves as LCs, for the political gains.
Mr. Vayalar Ravi should understand that even Sonia Gandhi was not allowed twenty years back, when our ex-PM Rajiv Visted Guruvayur.
Mr. R Venkatraman, the then President of India, was not allowed in Garbagraha in Chidambaram Natarajar temple. The ritual is he has to enter the temple without coat. Mr. Vallal Peruman, who was the MLA at that time, raised queries. RV just respected the custom. He is a brahmin and he has not shown his arrogance in the temple. He respected the custom.
For political gains, don't use temples and spoil the cultures followed for long year.s
RE:Not a Brahminical Arrogance
by srini krishnan on Jun 04, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Brahmins have always been at the receiving end in Tamilnadu. Every politician gained by pelting a stone at them. Perhaps, the same trend is trickling into Kerala too. Who listens to logic? Who cares to look at truth? Public memory is too short. They will move to the next hot news tomorrow. Let Vayalar enjoy a day. We will forgive him.
RE:Not a Brahminical Arrogance
by zaheen usmani on Jun 04, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
You are in Doha do you see any type of descrimination while entering in mosque
Hindu temples belongs to Hindus and Church to Christians and so on. Why mix up the religions?. If Hindus treat cows as GOD muslims kill them and eat. So there is basic difference between religions. It is not our choice. If some one likes one religion, basically because he is born in that religions and then their upbringing. Just because some one is a minister he can't impose what he wants. He does not have right to preach religion. He is not Krishna nor Jesus. Let him mind his own business of politics. He did not marry a christian because she is Christian, it was because she loved her. Love has no religion. Regarding entry of all to temples, why not allow DOGs also to temples? They too are GODs creation?. Why feed them along with us?. It is better if religion is not discussed by ministers. They are just power hungry people. KS
