Its really disheartening to see the messages being written for such a news. Instead of condemning the act of the priest, we are involving in mudslinging.. in differentiating us from muslims , blaming congress, blaming secularists etc etc..
am aint a big supporter of congress or secularists either.. but guys be practical and accept that whatever the priests are doing there in kerala in this temple is not acceptable..
i am proud to be a hindu for the fact that hinduism allows ppl to live freely and pursue whatever they want.. god is something beyond us and betond religions.. its not like he will get insulted if a non hindu enters the shrine and then needs a purification..
this is just unaaceptable. God is for every1 and every1 is alike. Why the doors of the god to be shut on any 1 might be a hindu/muslim/christian..
the theory of god works on the principle that he is the one encompassing all.. he is in every1 and every1 is in him.. then why restrict ppl..
lastly, in every religion there are ppl who instigate ppl against one another.. its for the ppl to stand up united against these ppl..be it hindu/muslim/christians..
RE:Sad to see such stupid replies to the contextual problem
by zaheen usmani on Jun 05, 2007 07:04 AM Permalink
Be united to crush untouchability it is curse at the time and reason of problem like reservation.I think south priests are much rigid instead of north and people visit every temples and shrines in north with out any problem
The vedas were entrusted to Brahmins for safe-guarding when the religion came under attack from foreign invaders. However, the Brahmins have modified things to the point that others have become "untouchables" or "unworthy" of God. One doesn't become a brahmin by birth. The true brahmin is one who realizes brahman or God. One doesn't attain that God merely by reading, memorizing and preaching the vedas. A true knower is a true brahmin/brahman and are the likes Krishna, Buddha or Christ. Valmiki wasn't a brahmin by birth- he was a forest dweller and hunter. He wrote the Ramayana after knowing that "brahman" or God and thus became a brahmin by deed. There are many brahmins by birth who are 'chandalas' by deed.
Heen duus are not understanding that their is fundamental problem in their religion.pleople like Bhaskar gatopadyaa and Sanjay are fighting a loosing immoral battel against the truth.
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 06:16 AM Permalink
I don't get the spelling of the first word..and I don't get really what you want to say. what is the problem in their religion? what is the immoral battle against what truth?
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Surya on Jun 05, 2007 06:18 AM Permalink
I too did not get the spelling somewhere in this discussion on xitianity.So when christianity is refered to with love by many of my friends here ad Xitianity,I thought let me call the hindis Heen-duus..
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 06:55 AM Permalink
But I don't think getting sarcastic is an answer. Maybe you should just keep telling your points in good will. Things are bound to get better.
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by HHH on Jun 05, 2007 07:05 AM Permalink
Define better.What is better?Hinduism being wiped out? Yeah that would make the commies and pseudo seculars happy.
RE:RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 07:40 AM Permalink
No HHH, by better I meant that religion will stop being an issue and we will concentrate on welfare issues and leading a fulfilling life. I think people should just recognize anybody's right to pursue their own paths and not try to argue them out of it and in fact nobody really gains whatever happens according to my opinion.
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by vaibhavi dhote on Jun 05, 2007 08:19 AM Permalink
No need to wipe out the Hinduism. Only seperate Brahmanism from Hinduism,eradicate the caste system from Hinduism it will again become Holy. Let Brahmins follow brahmanism away from hindus.
RE:RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by HHH on Jun 05, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
Sarath, do you have an opinion or you just tag along with anything and anyone?
RE:RE:RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 06:58 AM Permalink
HHH, I have an opinion. I think anything that is good in any religion (or anywhere else) has to survive and the bad has to be condemned. I don't believe that just because you are born somewhere or born into some culture you have to defend it inspite of its obvious flaws. I don't support anybody or am against. I am just issue based.
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by HHH on Jun 05, 2007 07:19 AM Permalink
Sarath, i think i know you from another forum. You are one of those agnostics.I guess thats what you are.You used the alias Avi
RE:Heen-duus are not understanding the problem
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
I am not Avi, HHH. This is the first time I am so actively blogging. I started only a week or so back in the cricket section here on rediff. But I am an agnostic, but I never blogged anywhere else and I never used Avi.
It is very sad to see that Brahman stop to pray the Union Minister family atleast at the time when he was so sad and his one grandson has died.This made them religious but the brahmans of the temples hurt their sentiments.Islam is a religion of equality and it never previal untouchabilty all the humans are equal in Islam either they are upper caste or lower caste all can read namaz in any mosque any where in world nobody can stop them.
RE:Islam
by kapil somani on Jun 05, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
hi zaheen, i agree with you. but hinduism is also not as potrayed by these acts.. lord krishna divided the human folk in 4 diff categories based on the work they did.. Also, it dint supported untouchability.besides the distinction in various castes was not on the basis of lineage as currently followed but on basis of work a person does. such distinction is followed in every society..it helps joining the like mindied ppl together..also the code of conduct in day to day life is different for ppl working in diff places. eg: a soldier is fighting for freeing his homeland and saving his ppl. So if he kills somebody for that, would that be a sin?? But on the other hand, if a merchant kills some1, its a sin for him.. But as in all religions, the later followers used the text incorrectly to their advantage and propogated such silly things..things have changed a lot over previous years. i accept there are some like the priests still existing but can say in the same breath that they are hugely outnumbered. we the modern day literate hindus stand against such priests and are very sad to hear such one off cases.regarding islam, i think the same applies true.. and i know a lot of good ppl whose stand is against the fanatical stand proposed by the minority there
RE:Islam
by Seven Maniacs on Jun 05, 2007 09:00 AM Permalink
Boss... thanks for your enlightening words.. the minister nor his faimly was stopped from worshipping in the temple! Get your facts right. I would love to see non-muslims being allowed into your mosques
RE:Islam
by Shameer on Jun 05, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Mr. Zaheen No point in comparing religions based on practices. Most of this traditions are made by humans themselves....I feel Upanishads dont preach untouchability. Similarly for Muslims there r so many unislamic traditions being followed by Muslims. U cant blame religion for that. There r many Brahman who dont care for casts.. So its the mentality that one possesses is important not his cast ..creed ..
You are not supposed to blame Brahman ... thats UNISLAMIC...
Guruvayur priest attitude is totally wrong. They are insulting all the Hindu%u2019s. Hinduism is a way of life. Irrespective of religion whoever likes Hinduism, he can be allowed to enter the temple. My fellow Indians, come out and teach a lesson to the priest of Guruvayur and remove them from the priest post. Allow all the people in the world into temple and spread the Hinduism all over the world.
Hindu Temples do not follow the constitution of India for their daily rituals. they have their own traditions passed on from generation to generation for many many years. Present day intellectuals show their ignorance by calling it as brahmanical arrogance. Can any non muslim ever imagine visiting even the city of Mecca in Saudi leave alone the the Mosque there. It is better for the politicians leave the temples alone and not to show their political arrogance
RE:RE:vayalr ravi
by Ankaiyan kesavakannan on Jun 05, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
If u r a messenger of go Why the hell you ask the government to forward the bill. u can ask the god himself to seperate a seat in heaven orhell itself
RE:vayalr ravi
by indiman on Jun 05, 2007 05:50 AM Permalink
Hey lollypop, i think you should just sit home and suck a lollypop instead of commenting on sites for adults like these.
