1. India and Pak share water of 5 rivers (2.5 wars; millions died in terriorist activities; still we could share water 2. India and Bangaladesh share water (1 crore civil invaders; Bangala is heaven for terriorists)
I am ashamed of reading the postings here. Too much of emotions and too much of rubbish.
Think sensibly.......We are brothers not enemies. We can come out of this problem through table talk. Not by this kind of rubbish talk...
the tribunal had set a bad precedent by granting irrational shares to karnataka, tamilnadu. And, that too after a great deal of 16 years!!!. Are we heading backwards???
One clear message here Karnataka never said that it will not release water, it is the amount that was the question questions on the verdic 1)Kaveri runs 318 Km in Karnataka and 315 Km in Tamilaadu and why/what bases Tribnal awarded 419 tmc TN. 2) ineterim order was of 205 tmc to TN then why suddenly increased to 419 tmc 3) so many peoples writes that Karntaka leaves water other states when there in flood only, this is not uniq to Karnataka, for your info. due MH north karnataka faced contineuos flood last year we Kannadiga hardly questionned it 4) the verdict is totaly baissed and KAR has every rights to oppose it ...... we certainly must to that.
Deviating from the above point why such kind baissed verdict against Kar, Politicle reason one can easily glance........ first of all there is totaly wrong concept of MP seat distrubution india based on density.... TN which is having 75% of Kar land posses 40 MP seats as aginst only 28 MP seats in KAR cleary the cutting politicle advantage of TN.... this means that when somewhere in 2019-2020 InidanMP seat is going to be revised KAR sholud increase it's population doble than the TN polpulation to gain same MP seats... how foolish system oneside we say "Population control" and anotherside such foolish rules which encourages popultaion...
whatever it may be ..... Karnataka should question this verdict in Suprem court... and taking more hard decission KAR shoul question tribunals biass towards TN....
RE:verdict biassed towards Tamilanadu
by on Feb 05, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Pls read the verdict gain. 419tmc include the cauvery catchment in TN also. In reality it is closer to 205tmc.
RE:RE:verdict biassed towards Tamilanadu
by Shadow on Feb 06, 2007 12:03 AM Permalink
tamil-nadu has more population than karnataka and hence the more number of MPs.
RE:RE:RE:verdict biassed towards Tamilanadu
by Shetty on Feb 06, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
TN doesn't give a damn abt population control and they get rewarded for their shortcomings!
RE:verdict biassed towards Tamilanadu
by Sundar Rajan on Feb 05, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
Prashant, There are few facts. I honestly believe, court is still not much affected by petty politics. U may have difference of opinion with the verdect, but coloring it is not right. 2. All souther state chief ministers, headed by then AP chief minister Chandra Babu Naidu requested central governement to stop re-drawing MP seats based on the population. The population growth is very less in souther states than northern ones. South- states argued that they will loose the seats; it is a punishment for controling the population.
It is a fact. U can search in google to get the news items.
- I hope i show the mirror. U can see your face now. - Regards Sundar
RE:verdict biassed towards Tamilanadu
by amit on Feb 05, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
My Dear Educated brothers and sisters, please go through the statistics..Karnataka is only going to release additional 12 tmc nothing more ..so please understand the figures first. Politicians only wants to gain a mileage pl understand details of verdict before becoming violent on media publications. Total water generated by cauvery in karnataka on average rain fall - 462 TMC. In this karnataka share - 270 TMC - 58.44% TN share - 182 TMC - 39.45% To sea - 10 TMC - 2.1% Total water generated by cauvery in Tamilnadu.on average rain fall - 270TMC TN share - 237 TMC -87.1% Kerala - 30 TMC -11.1% Pondicherry - 7 TMC - 1.2% Sea - 3 TMC - 0.6% WATER FROM TN CAUVERY BELT DOES NOT FLOW IN REVERSE DIRECTION TO KARNATAKA.
Please understand and dont go by big figures(419TMC) of TN(as the more water to it is got from its own catchment).
Here a balance is drawn to utilise water more resourcefully for agriculture.
Being an Andhrite who has lived in Bangalore and Chennai and now in Hyderabad, I am neutral in this dispute but would like it solved because ultimately its a national issue. I think this verdict is fair.
RE:I agree
by on Feb 05, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
This Verdict is Totally wrong. Cauvery originates in Karnataka and karnataka is going to have less alocation. Totally absurd!!! This is going to create tension between the two states. The persons who have given this verdict are headless!!
RE:RE:I agree
by buska O on Feb 09, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
boy, krishna originates in maharashtra, then y did you fight for more water? you are getting more than double of what water MH actully gets, rite? u shud have stayed neutral in that issue also, rite? comon, answer me.
I am not kannadiga neither tamilian, but still i feel you guys are doing too much.
RE:RE:I agree
by Anitha Muniswamy on Feb 05, 2007 09:49 PM Permalink
Do you think the much awaited verdict is Headless?
The tribunal has taken this decision after 16years of research and every one is mature enough to think what is right and what is wrong.
Man has a very short life. In the melee all this fights and qualms... Be an INDIAN. Not a Kannadiga or Tamilian. Everyone on this land is the son/daughter of Mother India. Every body has the right any where......
RE:RE:RE:I agree
by illusion of me on Feb 06, 2007 02:01 AM Permalink
excusme !!1 where vud india be without its states... u owe something to ur mother/motherland before u even think abt becoming an indian. india has always boasted of 'unity in diversity'. Aren't u swaying away from this. there is diversity and will always be. unity is something which comes when everyone gets a fair share and everyone is equal.
the decision is absurd. karnATaka's plan o expand its agricultural land will remain a dream forever. farmers will die, committing suicide and you are boasting of being indian and on top being proud of it.
RE:RE:RE:I agree
by Simhadri Ramarao on Feb 05, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
Well said Anitha..This debate doesn't take us anywhere. This is just a classic instance of vote bank politics.
RE:RE:RE:I agree
by BR on Feb 05, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
I Understand madam. Could you please explain which state are you from/ When the Injustice is done, we have to fight back. Not all verdicts are correct!!
In my comments yesterday, i said there was nothing wrong with TN asking for 562tmc ft of water. This was based on their needs. Karnataka has always been anti-national and not wanted to share its water. Up-stream states all need to share their water whether in drought or not. If in drought, then they can share less and I am sure that the tribunal had taken all that into account.
Karnataka cable operator blacking out Tamil channels is very ant-national. We are all one Indians but blacking out any language based on inter-state disputes shows that most of these Karnataka cable operators are thinking like Pakistanis.
What if TN stops electricty to Karnataka. Even though this is paid for by Karnataka as electricty is not free, the lost revenue due to lack of electricity is much much more than what gets paid in electricty revenue to TN.
RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Balaji M on Feb 05, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
Hi Kumar,
What do you mean by Anti-National, do you know the meaning of the words that you are saying? 1. Does any corner of Tamilnadu theatre has Kannada films released? 2. Does any of Tamil people knows how to behave with other language people when they come to Tamilnadu? 3. Have Tamilians spoke any other language when an strangers comes? these people has spoke english rather than any other INdian Regional Langauge, do you people think are you English is more important that any other Regional Language? when you say we are all Indian first think are you? are you behaving like an Indian?
see at Karnataka people they speak with what ever the language which that stranger knows, we have given permission to release Tamil films in our place so that Karnataka-Tamils should not feel that they are away from their Native.
See the politics that is played in TN, do they know human behavior, humanity? We know them far better than TN people, when you say some thing then here we can also say the things in the way what we need.
RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by kumar on Feb 05, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
actually, you can watch Kannada movies in TN. In fact, even Telugu movies is big in TN when I was there. Its based on population desire not on regional fanatism. Theres lots of Tamil Brahmins who ae happy with this decision on Cauvery. I have watched many Bollywood movies in TN. No one in TN has showed animosity towards me for being North Indian. I can't speak Tamil whatsoever.
RE:RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Srikrishnan Iyer on Feb 05, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
TN Brahmins are in a very bad shape in TN. Many have left TN; they are in some respected like kashmiri barhmins. You are a liar or are writing under an assumed name. It is also possible that you are plain dumb.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Ramakrishnan Venkatesh on Feb 06, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
Mr.Iyer, A single TN Brahmin, Venugopal, in All India Institute of Medical Sciences is willing to sacrifice patients to keep his ass in the seat and wage a war with the Govt. Nevertheless, even today, u will find all top positions in Private sector is occupied by them and they refer only their relatives (ofcourse, there are ggood exceptions too).SriKrishnan Iyer, may be u can explain me, why u have a typical tamil language.. do u know that u have that freedom only in TN.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Shadow on Feb 06, 2007 12:08 AM Permalink
balaji, such a open city, why it changes its names to Bengaluru!. Why the state minister is passing orders to schools to follow only Kannada. Outside, bangalore, Karnataka is a closetted, introverted, kannada-only state!.
RE:RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Thiagarajan Venkatesh on Feb 06, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Thanks Kumar for updating Balaji with facts. Hope he understands what you are trying to convey.
RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Narasimha Swamy on Feb 05, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
How dare are you to call Karnataka anti-national? You are the kind of person who have been supporting LTTE that killed our Rajiv Gandhi and call others as anti-national. You guys are first anti-nationals.
RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by kumar on Feb 05, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
I don't think most North Indians like me are LTTE supporters. Think before you speak. Typical South Indian
RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by Srinibas Patnaik on Feb 05, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
You are correct. Karnataka blocking tamil is anti-national. But what would call Tamil's(Dravid Forces) hate-perception towards north india, hindi, so-called 'aryans' and attempting to wipe-out the entire brahmin community from tamil nadu, and destruct each possible hindu places of worship
RE:RE:Don't have anti-national feeling
by kumar on Feb 05, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
I am an Aryan who goes to TN on business all the time. I have even lived in TN but have never had anyone treat me badly because of it.
The rain in Kerala comes down to the Kabini dam, when there is excess rainfall, why do you release the shutters ?!?!?!?
All the water should be used inside Karnataka and only when all the Dams are full and when you cannot store any more, you will drain into Tamilnadu.
You would be happy to have the dams in full capacity even at the end of the season, so that you have fuller capacity as emergency. ( what will happen if rains fail next year ??? )
Farmers using the cauvery upto the stretch at Biligundulu are owners and what about the other doing same profession down in Tamilnadu ?
The verdict given is only for 192 tmc. Month wise break up is also given.
But every one is responding with message, who are not farmers.
RE:The Cauvery does not end in Biligundulu
by shreehari bhat on Feb 05, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
this is not a verdict for kannadigas . namma kaveri amritana yaryarige eke kodbeku? nyayalaya davarign gottu namma bhavane modlu ee rajakaranigalanna kocchhi haaki . evarinda neerigu gati illanta aaytu. aavgaligen gottu bisleri kudiyuva kantrigalige eestu varsha rajakiya maadidru.
