60 yrs now since independence and we are still ruled by political parties which divide us on caste factors. Come on! When will we unite and vote for people for whom what matters is the overall development of the citizens of the country rather than people who calculate caste equations and other such divisive factors. We must unite and vote for people for whom development is of utmost importance without favoritism
RE:When will these politicians understand the IMPORTANCE OF INDIA as a country and us as INDIANS
by Indian on Dec 24, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
as long as Congress plays cast and divide politics in India, it's impossible to any political party to get their acts right
RE:When will these politicians understand the IMPORTANCE OF INDIA as a country and us as INDIANS
by ss gpal on Dec 28, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Dear sir Please think it over for a second.Why would the politicians want to divide on caste? Where does the fault lie? Simple answer is US! We want to register our castes as backward and most backward.We want the government to issue certificates to state that we are back ward and most backward caste.We want to use this back ward class and caste certificate to get seats in Medical college in engineering colleges, and Jobs .Now, we want jobs in private sector as well reserved for backward and most back ward castes.We take pride in calling ourselves backward caste and most backward caste.We have over 7000 castes in the backward caste list published by the various governments. We will burn the property if the government does not include our names in vbackward list and sc/st list.We shall progress backward and further backwards.The country will also progress backwards. If we do not ask evenfor a second the caste certificate then automatically caste conciousness will disappear. Be the change you want to see in others.Want a caste less india? Stop asking government to issue a caste certificate. Work harder at scoolhs and colleges and teach the children the meaning of hard work and merit and not about caste and backwardness.Caste certificates breeds hatred. Caste certificate is toilet tissue certificate.
After lot of discussions, Islamic Congress Committee has come to the following conclusion. 1.> The blame will be put on local Kangress idiots. Sonia has no part in this defeat.
2.> We have to try harder at muslim appeasement. First step make muslims unsecure.
3.> The hindu votes could not be divided on caste basis as Kangress would have liked. We have to try harder next time to cause caste tensions and divisions.
RE:HAHAH
by Islami OnSuicide on Dec 24, 2007 08:50 PM Permalink
idiot non of the points you mentioned about BJP happen in Gujrat.
But the points about congress were all true. Modi tried to make development of the state an issue but Congress was back on religion casteism and all its favourite tricks.
I am not a congress man, I am a common man [CM], I have expressed my views and if BJP promises that if they will not HARM Muslims then we are ready to vote for them, but no BJP leader except Atalji has done that, even after the elections in Gujarat the BJP leaders have not promised that they will look into problems of people who lost their bread winners in 2002 riots. How do you expect us to vote for BJP?
Jaffer, I still see that you imply that your votes really counts...! maybe you refer to the entire muslim vote bank, which again is irrelevant IF you are reading the emerging signs correctly.
Muslims will NOT be harmed IF Muslim leaders act responsibly and do not give in to false promises by pseudo-secularists and take all the pampering and act as if the majority has to lead life in their terms.
They cannot talk that MF Hussain is an Artist and Danish cartoonist is a Kafir. Views have to be balance and matuired
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Dhara Jagani on Dec 24, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
Jaffer Ali, Do not vote to BJP. You are in free Democratic India and no Muslim in the world has such freedom. I think you will agree to that.
Also, Why don't you talk about the people who lost their lives in Godhra carnage?
Mind it, Modi is not anti-muslims. He is against Ant-nationals engaged in terrorism backed by Jehadis causing loss to Hindus and the Country.
After 2002 riots, did you find any problem in Gujarat? See other states have communal riots, Bomb Blasts in which not only Hindus died but also Muslims.
My friend, it is always Give & Take. Try to support Modi and see the difference.
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Ishwar Patel on Dec 24, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
This is a misconception that BJP or Modi kills Muslims.... Within heart, every Hindu is calm and broad minded.....
It is the activities u people carry out, which creates problems and riots.,..
Can u promise that Muslims members will stop doing terrorism activities... No, you can not..
80% hard core criminals comes from ur community , 90% trrorist come from ur country...
Tell me, what more concessions do u want from Indians... BJP
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Shanker M on Dec 24, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
I don't believe this nonsense he is a tiger in a cow's hide. A terrorist in disguise.
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by prakash reddy on Dec 24, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Ali,
Don't expect some one will help u. Even if congress comes to power, u will see no change. All these stupid politicians will do anything for power. Try to be away from all these things (politics, caste, religion, etc). As long as u think we are all Indians then everyone will prosper.
RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
Prakash,
Once again most we Muslims think this is our counrty, once again this is a propaganda developed by the BJP people. There are people who ask me do you love India or Pakistan? I am like dead in those situations, asking me do you really born to your mother. How can we tolerate man?
RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
I too from Tamilnadu, go and ask Karunanidhi for it. Most of Muslims do not want reservation and we believe in hard work. LOL Pakistan created terrorists and they are suffering now, who bothers ayya. Koran teaches to kill everyone? a little knowledge is always dangerous thambi. There is no classes believe in hard work thats it, you have mentioned your class, what a stupid, muttal
RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Shanker M on Dec 24, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
If this is your country, tell me what you have done to put it on the world map?? What rights you have to exist here after partitioning my country, you are still sucking the blood out of my hindu brothers by propagating terror and investing on madrassas and the Congress rule.
RE:RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
Oh shankar Bhaiyya. Partition that was done pakistani Muslims, we are proud Indian Muslims, this is our country, I have the same what you have, understood, you are joker man, need to go for mental hostpital.
This is an excellent and Honest presentation of ground realities in TN....
Karunanidhi will also pay the price. but dear MT you DONOT mistake the existing co-alition Govt in TN as a people's mandate...
The problem I see with TN voters is it is extremely fragmented on caste lines. DMK, DK and allies do to TN on catelines what Congress does to Religion at a national level
RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
Sriram,
Not in Tamilnadu in our whole country we are divided by religion, caste, sub-caste, regionally, even by language. We need to get this fixed and then see how we grow.
yes but the kind of minority appeasement that Karunanidhi does will even embarrass the minorities....so to that extent TN leads the race in Minority appeasement
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
Leave this country, do you think that we are afraid, man, if that is the situation we will fight until death. I have the equal share as you have in this country, you better leave this country. Without minority vote they cannot win the lok sabha remember that.
hey Jaffer is this the response to my post? If so, i'm NOT surprised.. so much of intolerance to an opposite view? and you will fight till death for what? you really sound like a Jihadi dude...
and BTW you have NO right to ask anyone to leave the country. Its everybody's freewill....
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Shanker M on Dec 24, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
If this is your country, tell me what you have done to put it on the world map?? What rights you have to exist here after partitioning my country, you are still sucking the blood out of my hindu brothers by propagating terror and investing on madrassas and the Congress rule.
RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by uday on Dec 24, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
mr jafar, muslims has equal right as citizen of india like any other. do you think voting to bjp or congress ,depends only on religious considerations. this thinkink has damaged you muslims more than anything. so be positive think for INDIA in terms of growth,prosperity and oneness nad then nobody could dare to go wrong or dowrong for any section. why to blaim BJP only? dont you think all parties are on their own agenda ie; anyway to rule and befool poeple. what CPM is doing in nandigram? does congress dont have any other than gandhies.
RE:RE:RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Uday,
We blame BJP because their core agenda is against Muslims. They are taking this country to 18th century by calling Baber in to politics, we are living 21st century. Even those parties have Hindus, think why?
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
Uday,
Answer me without any bias if the BJP has not opposed Muslims will they get vote? so see their credibility, they too are doing the vote bank politics, correct? DIVIDE AND RULE, they got it from British.
RE:How Muslims can vote for BJP?
by samarjit on Dec 24, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
@jafar answer me honestly...if mulayam in UP not opposed hindus in ram janmabhumi had you voted him in power???
BJP has to quickly forget its success in Gujarat and prepare to gain a decisive power in the centre which has for long been elusive and in the hands of the Congress. Atleast now our people must realize the folly of the Congress's rule, else it will be too late to repair the damage done by the pseudo secularists and the Hindus will be in eternal hell for letting the Congress take over their interests in their own heartland.
