Please dont get up from discussions until 28 th You have to sit again for Himachal Debacle also.So many states are in Q for debacles congress will reach Single figures in the coming feature.for that you purchse beds to sleep permenently
BJP is running out of good leaders, Promod Mahajan was a promising leader but he too not alive now. Advani is not a good leader and is not even liked by RSS. Chances for BJP in the next election is very dim and who knows if Advani will be alive during next election, he is too old. By selecting Advani as their PM candidate its very clear that BJP has no able leader after respectable Atal Bihari Vajpayee.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Nikhil on Dec 24, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
And how about Congress? An imported cartoon is their leader and looks like urs too, u fool
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
Nikhil, Why getting too much of angry man? The truth will always hard to digest and I can see that in your message. Congress have so many known faces, if they put Rahul as their PM candidate then all parties will loss. This is a fact if you are aware of this ask experts.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Nikhil on Dec 24, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
Rahul as PM candidate? They have already tried putting him in UP and Gujarat and he had fallen on his stupid face
RE:RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Srikanth on Dec 24, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
I want to Rahul to be the PM candidate and he has to go to all state elections campaign. We know the astrology of Rahul and I desperate to get him annonced. He had done good job for congress in Uttrachal,Panjab,UP,Gujrat and Himachal. We want his service.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Vishvaksenah E on Dec 24, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
Congress -I has many leaders. After Sonia Gandhi, there are RAhul Gandhi and Priyanka Vadera. After that there are Priyanka's two children -Trehan Vadera or whatever their names are. By that time Rahul Gandhi would beget a child or so .So the yet to be born conceived children are also potential Congress - I presidents.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Sathish N on Dec 24, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
There are 1000s of good, honest and nationist people in BJP. Just wait and you will see them when the opportunity comes. And, that is going to be soon!!!
RE:RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by parvinder on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
they have seen in Guajarat, now they will see in HP .. few months back, they saw in loacla elections in Delhi and more to come ..
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
oh really, we didn't know that, are they in go-down? ask them to relese them now, else they wont win next general election.. yes, they can make India Shine..
RE:RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
The man who called our number one enemy Jinnah as a noble leader [oh sorry he is praising his home country's leader] and he is not even liked by his colleagues. Good joke.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Deewaker pandey on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
hey u muslim congressi. ur congress is a group of chaploos. they know 2 things only. 1. hw 2 utilize ur community 2 get vote 2. buttering of gandhi family.
RE:RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
Deewaker,
I am not a congress man, I am a common man [CM], I have expressed my views and if BJP promises that if they will not HARM Muslims then we are ready to vote for them, but no BJP leader except Atalji has done that, even after the elections in Gujarat the BJP leaders have not promised that they will look into problems of people who lost their bread winners in 2002 riots. How do you expect us to vote for BJP?
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Demo-crazy on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
Jaffer Bhai, what makes you think one should keep verbal promises every now and then? If you go by the promises Congress politicians, communists, BSP and SP politicians made to Muslim all these years, you should really have seen so much of progress. But, in reality, what did you fellows get? Only promises. Pure lies. They have cheated you and a few muslim politicians have also gobbled up money meant for development together with these greedy politicians.
Stop living in this mental ghetto. Be open, be positive, be nationalistic. When one speaks against terrorism, it is not against a peaceful Muslim. So, no need for a common innocent Muslim to get agitated. Congress painted Muslims as terrorism supporters as soon as Modi spoke against Afzal Guru, and Sohrabuddin. Why? Catch the congressman to stop inciting. More importantly, stop accepting what they say. Think hard, before you make a decision about any person or party.
RE:Congress and allies have better chance
by Demo-crazy on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
BJP has more capable leadership than any other party in India today. They will come to the fore as time demands.
It is only in Congres one will see spineless Congressmen bending before this Nehru-Ghandi family.
I agree with most of viewers or readers that sonia,manmohan,Rahul are all waste and they dont delivar anthing.Ok what next in congress should they dissolve congress party? or only BJP should be there as party in India? If these people are not leaders who should lead party? will advani will join congress or modi?
One thing is clear that congress as a party they dont have leaders like modi who can show cake in words.Congress is going to lose badly in next elections and BJP after coming to power again starts India shining tune.. akshay
RE:What Next
by parvinder on Dec 24, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
I dont agree with you .. Manu is good for PUPPET show, Sonu good for Cartoon and little prince good for Road Shows.
RE:RE:What Next
by Dipak Patel on Dec 24, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
If you want to leave "IT indutry" leave it but do not leave "IT Industry" And if like think white people do not like anybody sucks there dicks but they very much like to screw your ass from the back side.
RE:What Next
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
what makes u feel modi is a leader ? what qualities he has for a leader, i agree if u want him to compare with Hitler or Mussolini...
I disagree with you.People dont see develpment as creterion now a days.Many cases are there where development dint payoff as last govt with vajapayee and S M krishna of karnataka who loast badly despite good work
RE:What Next
by Srikanth on Dec 24, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
Vajpayee lost his election not becuase of the development but becuase of not having proper alliance mantra. Krishna did things for IT sector and failed to do with farmers especially with cavery. He had more wealth and that causes. Chandra Babu==didn't do expect IT and he equally had money. He had taken undue advantage for Heritage and other personal things. If he would have delivered for poor, he would have been the role model. JythiBasu has taken care of Bangla people for voting and CPM all the time get elected.
RE:What Next
by Pop Head on Dec 24, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
ualities of Good leader? Gay. That it seems to be the current political flavor at least in one part of the country.
RE:RE:What Next
by mohan kumar on Dec 24, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
Mr.Shabeer, India now need a leader like Narendra Modi, who have the guts to speak about hindutva in public. You can compare him with Hitler or Mussolini no matter. Hindutva is not based on Hindu, this is the culture of our nation.
RE:What Next
by Sathish N on Dec 24, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
Instead of comparing Modi to Hitler, it would be easier to compare Sonia to Hitler. Congress is not a democratic setup. Everything is decided by madam and no congressman will take a step without madam's order.
RE:What Next
by the unique on Dec 24, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
If anybody makes fool of people he is the leader.Mr modi did the same thing just used provocative words to get vote.now a days people just wants entertainment and modi is giving that.All knows all do same bu least modi deliver time pass speeches.
RE:What Next
by venkat ramana on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
You must ask this question to the people of Gujarat. I don't know from where you are but clearly you don't know what is happening in Gujarat
RE:What Next
by Dipak Patel on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
How about Congress? Do you consider those who killed thousands of Sikhs and Kashmiri pundits as Hitler and Mussolini?
Sonia, Rahul, Priyanka and Priyanka's children can NEVER make any mistakes.
Till Ms. Gandhi made the 'Merchants of death' speech, the Gujarat campaign was proceeding along very predictable lines. The moment she made this and other provocative statements, obviously he wasn't expecting a combative person like Narendra Modi to keep quiet.
The Congress keeps branding the BJP communal and itself secular. The Congress is as communal as the BJP. Each and every political party in India plays the communalism card.
The Congress has a funny type of democracy. Their democracy is a dictatorial democracy where the party can be headed only by the Gandhi-Nehru family. And decisions on CMs in different states can be taken only by Sonia Gandhi.
If this is democracy, the President Saddam Hussein was a democrat as well.
RE:Sonia, Congress leaders discuss Gujarat defeat
by Srikanth on Dec 24, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
If congress is so secular, why they have aligned with VHP leader Thogadia and his brother in this elections. They have given ticket to them. They are not having any faith on them but they thought that LeT Mazzood Azad photo for canvassing. They never talk about what they are going to do. Hope they will try to give colour TV to all if they electeted in lokshaba election.
What can Sonia discuss? She can't remove herself, neither can the congressis realize that their politics of vote banks, apeasement of minorities and disregard and suppression of Hindus would defeat them everywhere.
They will come out with a few paltry reasons for this defeat and try to cheat bholi bhali junta again and again. What else can they do?
RE:What can the congressis do with an imported president?
by Srikanth on Dec 24, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
It is PVNR style as whenever they failed to deliver, the others will say that they have faith on them and their leadership. They will reaffirm their commitment to the bloody secularism.
RE:What can the congressis do with an imported president?
by saturn on Dec 24, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
Yeah. That way they will reaffirm their future defeats.
Gujarat 20-20 match is over, Team BJP won the match. Narendra Modi declared man of the match and man of the series for his allround performance. He will soon a member of the national BJP Team and possible candidate for the national captaincy after L.K.Advani. Old players like Keshubhai Patel, Suresh Mehta and Kashi Rane didn't even considered by the selectors. Modi led the party from the front like a warrier, boosted the morale of grass route level workers. He proved himself that, sonia and rahul are nothing in Gujarat than show pieces in road shows. Congress expect charishma from sonia. In congress we can rarely see a leader, he who can win a corporation election in his own. Congress is suffering from Sonia mania. All the congress leaders are living in fool's paradise. Congress is nothing but a crowd. How the congressmen in Gujarat expected sonia's charishma in Gujarat as she was a total fail in her own state UP. If Sonia can't challenge Mayawati, how she can challenge Modi in Gujarat ?. Congress have had more than 147 seats in Lok Sabha when Late Sitaram Kesari was its president. Even now the tally of congress is same. Then what is special in Sonia's leadership. Congress is now going to face another defeat in Himachal Pradesh, then Karnataka. I have respect for Smt.Sonia Gandhi as the widow of Late Rajiv Gandhi and member of India's no.1 Nehru-Gandhi Family. But I couldn't accept her as a leader of our country.
I agree with most of viewers or readers that sonia,manmohan,Rahul are all waste and they dont delivar anthing.Ok what next in congress should they dissolve congress party? or only BJP should be there as party in India? If these people are not leaders who should lead party? will advani will join congress or modi?
One thing is clear that congress as a party they dont have leaders like modi who can show cake in words.Congress is going to lose badly in next elections and BJP after coming to power again starts India shining tune
1. Ascetic discipline 2. A person of character and justice 3. A visionary and implements his vision 4. One whose judgement is reliable 5. One who has balls (this is not sexist, Indira had it)
RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
6. One who is fascist, who can invoke emotions and trigger them for personal gains. 7. Takes election to a dirty level where in he doesn't the Prime Minister or Chairperson of the ruling party.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
May I ask you sir, how much is the muslim community responsible for getting such characters like Modi as hindu leaders. What do you expect, if muslims vote enmass on communal basis for 60years, hindus will not do it now ? I regret we are seeing this day, but you all are responsible for this.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
i agree but that what can we do, it's not alone modi, also advani was our creation... but i don't voting enmasse was the problem, i feel it's a personality of anyone who can trigger emotions, advani was successful and then now modi... affected is not muslims alone, hindus would also be affected due to it.. why are they not votting enmasse then?
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
On what basis were they triggering those emotions tell me ? You tell me now, the root cause was Babri Masjid, this mosque was of no significance to islam at all, it was not even used for so many years. But it was a very important place for hindus, your mullahs did not budge an inch, they created Advanis and Modis and all the other problems. 30 years back hindus and muslims worshipped in the same place and there was so much harmony. . You are your own enemies.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
Look at the history of RSS, see why it was created ? Even at the time of its creation hindu bodies like Hindu Maha Sabha considered RSS as a non hindu outfit. Who gave them this status, when we derecognized them. Who gave them this power ? ask this yourself.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
By the way Babari Masjid is the birth place of Rama, we cannot ask proof for it we dont have it, you cannot give proof for your prophet (pbuh) splitting the moon, all these are impossible and a matter of faith.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
the root cause is not Babri Masjid, the root cause is RSS and it's other subsidary organs who lie outside the country for funds for helping people and then spent it for all communal activities, transporting kar-sevaks across the country...good way to fool people across the world... Babri Masjid...what do u no significance, if we don't use then we have to give it? There are some temples which are not used, can we demolish and build temples now? why is important for hindus, was anything there inside the masjid, it was a idol which someone placed few years back..think who is not budging, there is enough land in ayodhya, build outside the mosque..who stopped it... and first of all, why do u think its important place, of the 70 crore hindus, how many hindus go there ? atleast 1 crore ? forget atleast 1 lakh, not even a 10000 people go there.. as i said, dont get trapped into the emotional words triggered by few guys.. that's there family business, they aren't helping u or the remaining hindus.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
We can keep discussing this, it has more significance for hindus than for islam. Rama is a hindu God, Babar is not a prophet of islam. We can ignore all that, but if you guys had leaders who would foresee this problem, we would not have been in this state today. Look at the solution you have invited for yourself and us. These fanatics will take over to a point where you will have to listen to them. This could have been easily avoided, if you understood the sentiments of the people you live with. "Rama is a central diety to hindus, Babar is not so to islam." if you understand this statement clearly you will make progress in understanding the problem. This is an emotional problem which could have been solved easily , it was in your hands, you botched it up.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Nikhil on Dec 24, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
shabeer mohammed I can understand. You will take time to recover. See a doctor and u will be fine
RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:03 PM Permalink
indeed i would need a doctor, but that's in modi's house, can u take me there please... baby, there is nothing to recover, yes he won, but Hitler also ruled Germany, i see many similarities...
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Pradeep Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
sha-beer-mu-ah-mad will never recover :) he's been intoxicated by "holey que-ran".
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
indeed, y'day night i didn't get sleep b'cos i was reading geeeeeta and instead of watching star wars movie, i read a novel called mahaaabarad..where all astras was being fired, oops Agni, oops Prithvi ;-)
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Pop Head on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
Yes. Ascetic. One who is gay. It seems Gays are the current poltical flavor in some parts of the country.
As promised I offer my congrats to all of my friends - Jehadi Hindus on Modi's re-relection. I hope you all had a good drink on my behalf also. Don't want to add anything more least I am misinterpretted as sour grapes. Hope to continue sparring with you.
RE:Congrats to All Jehadi Hindus - Pophead
by sujoy sharma on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
you are not pop head you have nallah garbage in yiur head.You should rename yourself as garbage head
RE:Congrats to All Jehadi Hindus - Pophead
by Pop Head on Dec 24, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
I am Pophead. My head is cracked open and my brains are jutting out. Parasite (note spelling) or Garbage Head - what's in a name. Abuses from all Jehadis (Hindus or Muslims) are welcome. My skin is thick as a rhinoceros.
RE:Congrats to All Jehadi Hindus - Pophead
by AMEER JAWAN on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
It is better to have 'drink' at own cost instead of 'sucking blood of innocents from Kasmir/Pakistan mosques'. And precisly not to live as a'PARSITE'.