RE:loafer
by uday mahindrakar on Dec 11, 2007 08:45 PM Permalink
A Gujarati Muslim said: that means every one know what muslim leaders did.
He further says, "What Aurangzeb did to Hindus under his rule, Modi is doing the same to Muslims except the fact that we do not pay jaziya (tax levied during Aurangzeb's rule on Hindus)."
RE:loafer
by Naresh Nayak on Dec 11, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
This is Communist-speak. The Commies know how to change their colours to suit the situation. I didn't know when this Commie became a Hindu. I think Mr. Prasun Chatterjee has got all his facts wrong. The skeletons being dug up aren't coming from Gujarat, it's coming from West Bengal with the WB Communist Junta Government using extra judicial killings to eliminate inconvenience and opposition.
RE:Encouraging muslims to take up arms
by opasser on Dec 11, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
There are already enough terrorists. The moderates have kept silent. Hindus are slaughtered in J & K bu Muslim Terrorists without any provocation. India has been repeated attacked by Muslims during its existence. Be proud of yourself as a Hindu.
RE:Encouraging muslims to take up arms
by farid patel on Dec 11, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
i don't support terrorism in any form, but you have a valid point here. injustice give rise to agression. which is though not justified but this is something the socity has to think about
RE:Encouraging muslims to take up arms
by Desperado on Dec 11, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
Farid, That is the reason for all the hindu-extremist organisations present now. Islamo-fascists forced hindus to become aggressive..
RE:Encouraging muslims to take up arms
by farid patel on Dec 11, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
same explanation i can give of terrorist modi and group gave a reason to those so called muslim terrorist to be agressive.....this can go on and on and on. i condemn all form of terrorism and value the sanctity of human life.
RE:IF INDIA HAD MUSLIM PRESIDENTS, NOTHING CAN STOP IN HAVING MUSLIM CM FOR GUJARAT!!!.
by Rajeev Khare on Dec 11, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
As is happening in Malayasia.
RE:RE:IF INDIA HAD MUSLIM PRESIDENTS, NOTHING CAN STOP IN HAVING MUSLIM CM FOR GUJARAT!!!.
by Shanker M on Dec 11, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
With great people like you, not only will they have a terrorist CM, but also the reputation of being the powerhouse of terror for the entire human community.
RE:IF INDIA HAD MUSLIM PRESIDENTS, NOTHING CAN STOP IN HAVING MUSLIM CM FOR GUJARAT!!!.
by siddhartha on Dec 11, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
i hope so too.. but a muslim chief minsiter who is not hung up on his religion. Someone like APJ adbul kalam maybe, someone who wont play religion card to come to power like Modi.
Some one honest, and someone who is a visionary and will bring peace between the two communities ..insted of creating tension and hatred like modi.
RE:IF INDIA HAD MUSLIM PRESIDENTS, NOTHING CAN STOP IN HAVING MUSLIM CM FOR GUJARAT!!!.
by hanuman on Dec 11, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
wow!it shows how stupid u r! you belive that only muslim cm could do it!
Or how they ignore simple facts: Muslims in Gujarat have a literacy rate of 73 per cent, more than Muslims anywhere, and more than the national average. Gujarat%u2019s 45 lakh Muslims %u2014 just over 9 per cent of the state%u2019s population %u2014 fare better than the national average for all religions on several counts including sex ratio and work participation. Yes, Muslims and Hindus don%u2019t get homes in each other%u2019s neighbourhoods. There is actually a law in Gujarat that bans such sales in several places. Yes, Muslims do feel discriminated against in many areas. But they are doing all this despite all that. Modi or no Modi, Gujarat%u2019s Muslims are armed with the supreme weapon that every Gujarati is armed with: their centuries-old entrepreneurial spirit. No amount of imposed victimhood can take that away.
Yet, there is a deep and astounding disconnect between what we in the media believe the condition of Gujarat%u2019s Muslims to be and what it actually is. And maybe there is a lesson in that. Still, the image of Gujarat%u2019s Muslims as perceived outside Gujarat and outside India is one we have created and nurtured: that they are helpless victims, no better than second-class citizens.
Then there are the NGOs. Many of these organisations took money from the riot victims before letting them live there. In Godhra, for example, a two-room set with plastered walls took about Rs 33,000 to build, and the families paid Rs 20,000 each for them. They begged and borrowed from friends and family members,
Then there are the NGOs. Many of these organisations took money from the riot victims before letting them live there. In Godhra, for example, a two-room set with plastered walls took about Rs 33,000 to build, and the families paid Rs 20,000 each for them. They begged and borrowed from friends and family members, scrounged and somehow put together the amounts. That doesn%u2019t sound like relief to me. It sounds like a subsidised real estate deal.
Worse, these families don%u2019t even own these two-room sets. The properties have not been transferred in their names and they are technically illegal squatters. The head of the Islamic Relief Committee, which supervised these constructions, told me that this was done %u201Cso that the riot victims don%u2019t sell those homes... that sort of thing happens here%u201D. And that money was taken from them %u201Cso that they know that everything does not come free%u201D.
Then there%u2019s the place that provoked the National Commission of Minorities to state, %u201CIf there is hell under the sun, it is here.%u201D Citizen Nagar, a neighbourhood in Ahmedabad, is where Muslim riot victims live next to the city%u2019s largest garbage dump, where sewage flows through their lanes in the monsoons and they battle disease and squalor.
For five years, Citizen Nagar is, for the NGOs, the symbol of what is wrong with Gujarat%u2019s Muslims. They lost their livelihoods, they are far from their places of work, schools or medical facilities. But who chose that location? Who bought the land and resettled the families near the reeking garbage dump? The same NGOs who are complaining today. Rather than encourage and prepare them to return home or to rebuild their lives, the NGOs, according to a prominent Muslim philanthropist, %u201Cthrew money at the families and created victims for life%u201D.
It was haphazard, poorly thought out and downright cruel. First the mad rioters killed people and Modi%u2019s government looked the other way. And since then, the media and many NGOs are trying to ensure that they always remain just that: victims.
RE:prasson jihadi for u ...........
by farid patel on Dec 11, 2007 08:34 PM Permalink
there is nothing wrong in madrassa education. it teaches islam and all the teaches of islam are for the benefits of humanity
RE:prasson jihadi for u ...........
by Sunil Reddy on Dec 11, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
If Killing people is correct which is thought in Madarassa then how come Islam is correct.
RE:Muslims are the cause for this riots
by siddhartha on Dec 11, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
when some thing happens to muslims its usually sponsored by the goverment not by misguided individuals and is a reflection on the entire state and constitution...
most muslims are against islamic terrorists, but hidnus by voting modi in showed how blood thristy they are.
btw muslim terrorists are criticized all the time every single day..what the hell are you talking about anyways?..stop seeing things with eyes half open and with so much prejudices
RE:RE:Muslims are the cause for this riots
by siddhartha on Dec 11, 2007 08:45 PM Permalink
btw how many bomb blasts in inda where there before babri masjid?
RE:Muslims are the cause for this riots
by Harvinder Singh on Dec 12, 2007 05:56 AM Permalink
Teriorist kill hindu in kashmir valley what you said what Indian army is doing they are killing muslims so many fake encounters, I speaking with experience , Kashmir is same proplem as in Punjab , where Police kill sikhs that legal and if a sikh kill a police man who raped his sister then he terorist , Because Hindu are in power what ever there forces do is legal , Carnage of 5000 sikh in delhi was legal and if sikh killed lalit makhan in delhi to take revenage he was terorist ...,, Indian legal is soo week that why they creating tereroist ...No body os born terrerist .....Just think about it after 23 year no a single congress leader were punish involved in Sikh carrange in delhi now if somebody from the victims family kill that leader the he / she terriost.
It is a blot on secular India that the much hyped growth story of Gujarat during the Modi regime has always left Gujarati Muslims sidelined. In such a hapless situation, Muslims in Gujarat seem to have been left with no alternative, but to leave the state for the majority Hindus and settle down in other parts of their vast motherland India, which is far more than the so called Gujarat. We should realize that India is home to 180 million Muslims and there are millions and millions of peace loving Hindu brothers living in other parts India without having fallen prey to the tired rhetoric of Hindu fundamentalists like Modi. Let%u2019s leave Gujarat for its highly communalized and pampered Hindu majority who have never shown throughout the state%u2019s history any kind of sympathy towards there Muslim fellow beings and settle down in truly developed and lush southern states like Kerala, Karnataka, to name a few. Mohamed Abdul Jaleel Choorappulakkal
RE:Leave Gujarat for Modi and Hinduists
by Sunil Reddy on Dec 11, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
What ever you are saying is wrong. I have seen many Muslims after riots they say that they are happy after riots no harassment is happening to them. You are talking about Muslims in Gujarat if you are really Indian what about Hindus in Kashmir and why dont you talk about them. Hindus from Kashmir are tortured by Muslims and that is the reason they are moving from Kashmir and it is not Muslims from Gujarat.
There are mass killing that is happening in Kashmir. See population of Hindus in Kashmir 2 decades ago and now you can find major decrement. And Muslims population s increased but not decreased in Gujarat.
RE:Leave Gujarat for Modi and Hinduists
by Mohamed Abdul Jaleel on Dec 11, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
I know all you who do not welcome us to their respective states do not constitute 5% of all India's Hindu population, Jai Hind Mohamed Abdul Jaleel
IF YOU MUSLIMS ARE SO UNHAPPY IN THE LAND OF US INFIDELS THEN PLEASE VOTE WITH YOUR FEET AND GO TO THE LAND OF THE PURE PAKISTAN WHICH YOU ALL WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT HAVING ACHIVED THE GOAL REFUSED TO GO THERE. WITH THE MUSLIM RECORD IN INDIA WE INDIANS OWE THEM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND I REPEAT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
RE:PAKISTAN IS WAITING.
by farid patel on Dec 11, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
i can understand your anger, i am a muslim and i can say that some so called muslims are really disgusting even i don't like them. but believe with your help we can workout together and make this country a beautiful place.
RE:PAKISTAN IS WAITING.
by mindgod on Dec 11, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
Farid,
u are doing Taqqiya here. U beleive only Islam is correct and ur Quran say kill all infidel and force them jazziya. And now we should beleive that there exit something called a good muslim - impossible.
All muslims are just buying time. Go to any muslim-pocket and feel it real.
Given a chance i dont think farid will hesitate to pierce his dagger if the person is a non-muslim.
All he is doing here is just Taqqiya Taqqiya - The Quranic advice to lie to infidels to cheat them and kill them
RE:PAKISTAN IS WAITING.
by ria kh on Dec 11, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
Dear Brother Indians,
I feel sorry to see such kind of hate messages on this topic. Lets face it - India needs peace and harmony. Every type of fundamentalist is dangerous to india - Be it the Hindu Jihadis or the Muslim Sena/Dals.
-- Any form of Oppression is going to lead to more violence in future as is going on in Gujarat now. Every crime must be punished : be those who burnt the train or burnt the houses/people. How can you have forgetting/forgiveness only one way? -- As an indian i feel pained to see the plight of Hindu Kashmiris, but what have 80 Crore hindus done about them. Even the so called custodians of Indian culture-BJP etc only use them during elections. -- Pakistan created the Jihadis and now is facing the music- More people have died in Pakistan due to terrorism than india in 2007. -- We don't need another replica here of Hindu Jihadis doing the same thing out here..
FUNDAMENTALISM IS BAD BE IT OF ANY RELEGION.THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT IT IS BY PUTTING BEHIND BARS EVERY CRIMINAL WHETHER HE DOES IT IN THE NAME OF ISLAM OR IN THE NAME OF HINDUISM.
RE:RE:PAKISTAN IS WAITING.
by mindgod on Dec 11, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
FOr the first time Feeling the heart from a Muslim. I believe u, I can feel it in ur words. But what can u do to prevent muslim marauders to stop hating all religions except them and wage religious wars using taqqiya to take over everyland saying islam is the only truth..!!!
As long as anyone say - only my mother is angel all others are prostitutes...!!!, killing and hate will happen.
And Muslims will never let any other religions sustain - history of world is the proof.
So I feel sorry for u. The day muslims say, all religions lead to GOD, the war ends. Or else today I may be killed, tommorrow u..!!
