RE:True Islam
by Sheril T Varghese on Aug 02, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
please every faith has fanatics. what i have seen common with all fanatics is total misunderstanding of faith and importance in society. political concepts like democracy and secularism if needed can also form a religion by its own. finally it is a set of virtues a community has in common.
The thought we put about our political system over net has no effect on improving the system. Because for the politicians real vote bank is illiterate people who can only get carried away by emotional speeches. Madam Sonia,HDK etc pseudo secular damn care about us netizens. If you guys really have no faith in the system then to fight against it make some forum. Bring the thoughts into ground. Persuade the educated to vote into elections not refrain from it. Then only our voice will be heard.
Why the politicians should care about what has been said/discussed over net. It is hardly going to harm their agenda.
RE:RE:Try something real guys
by Sheril Varghese on Aug 02, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
why do you think india's social security is in real shit? ;-p if we had a stable social security, may we would have got educated persons taking into the street.
RE:RE:Try something real guys
by Venugopal Minnal on Aug 02, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
While agreeing to the suggestion that we should invariably vote to change the system, I have just one nagging doubt. Is there any politician in India with integrety? Even if there is some one outside politics, he invariably becomes a crook once he joins the gutter. If you have any doubt, please revisit the Indian political happenings since say 1980.
RE:Try something real guys
by Avinash Roshan on Aug 02, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
One such person Mr. Kalam has rekindled the hope. Never loose the hope. If we think like this then how we can dream about bright future of our motherland.
RE:RE:Try something real guys
by Venugopal Minnal on Aug 02, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Thanks Avinash for bringing Dr. Kalam. But please see what happened to him. Despite millions' desire, did the Indian politicians let him continue? All just because he has integrety. And see who has succeeded him. I want to be an optimist and long for a proud India. Realism slaps me and accept defeat.
Haneef's case must serve like an eye-opener for Indian Govt(and K'taka govt also).Although Australian cops couldnt finally prove anything against him, we the people and the govt of India must remember that it wasnt FOR NOTHING that AFP took him in custody. It is hi-time the govt stops licking the knees of moslems for votes and takes this matter VERY seriously. Our policy(?) of minority-appeasement, tolerance and lenience and non-violence is rendering the whole system impotent. Better we wake up before these small episodes turn up into full blown cancer in the third stage... We must follow Israel. See how they deal with terrorists or even suspected terrorists! Isnt it better that one innocent(?) suspect dies at the hands of cops rather than he escaping through judicial loopholes and killing hundreds of guaranteedly innocent citizens later??? Even if convicts of Bombay Blasts Case are given death sentences (that too after 14 yrs) it remains to be seen how many of'em are actually hanged and when.We mustn't forget that JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED!!! The only logical answer to the proxy-war of terrorists is "STATE SPONSORED COUNTER-TERRORISM". HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD! VANDE MATARAM! VANDE MATARAM!! VANDE MATARAM!!! BHARAT MATA KI JAI !!!
IF WEST DOING WRONG TO ISLAM AND MUSLIM ALLAH HAVE GIVEN POWER TO MUSLIMS IN THE FORM OF OIL WHAT MUSLIM NATIONS DOING ? AND LEADERS? QURAN SAYS GO BACK TO QURAN ALLAH READY TO SAVE .....ISLAM IS NOT A TREDITION .......ISLAM IS QURAN ........READ IT WITH MEANING ............AM REVERT MUSLIM 12 YEARS AGO BUT ITS UNFORTUNATE TO SAY WHOM I GOT CHEATED TI DATE IS ONLY BY BORN MUSLIMS ............WHEN U ALL ARE DOING TO REVERT THINK WHAT KNLEDGE U HAVE ABOUT ISLAM ....ALLAH SAID IN QURAN I DONT LOOK AT BEAUTY OR MONEY ...I LOOK AT UR HEART N INTENTIONS ...........NOW TELL ME HOW MANY SCOLARS ARE BORN MUSLIMS?...........HOW MANY REVERT MUSLIMS DETAINED IN TERORIST CHARGES?...........AND SOME SCOLAR WHOS REVERT SAID IF I WOULD HAVE KNOW MUSLIMS FIRST I WUD HAVE NEVER COME TO ISLAM .....HE SAW ISLAM FIRST SO HES MUSLIM ...........WHO EVER WANA SEE WHATS ISLAM PLS DONT SEE FROM MUSLIMS .......PLS SEE IT FROM QURAN ..........MAY ALLAH SAVE U ALL
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by aman wowz on Aug 02, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
MORE OVER ONE NOT KIND TO ALLAHS CREATION HE DONT RESPECT THE CREATOR.....DONT TAKE SHORT CUT TO HEAVEN IN THE NAME JIHAD ......JIHAD IS FIGHT WITH SAITAN ........NOT WITH UK / US TRY TO PURIFY UR HEART....
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by Sachin Loher on Aug 02, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
Do you mean Muslims who support Jihad dont read QURAN ? Then Why Madarasas are producing terrorist where kids knows QURAN by heart?
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by hemant shukla on Aug 02, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
If allah wanted to save you all, he should have advised u all to convert to either to hinduism or buddhism ha a ha ha
RE:RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by rupert lobo on Aug 02, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
hey dude Allah means god , so one God called by different names, but it is these perverted beasts who bring shame to Islam and thier respective country
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by rupert lobo on Aug 02, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
the bottom line is this mate other than that they know next to nothing, they know two words Allah & Quran, had they read & practised with thier heart today you would not find these uncultured barbarians.
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by KAUN on Aug 02, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
dear try identifying good intentions not good english. good english means ma,mphil,phd..like haneef.kafeel,sabeel and company... hope you ARE GETTING MY POINT . peace
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by jolly on Aug 02, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
Really appreciable point. I am ready to convert to islam if i had find a one open minded person.
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by aman wowz on Aug 02, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
HELLO DEAR I NEVER GOT ISLAM FROM MUSLIMS ....I GOT FROM QURAN ....ALLAH WILL HELP U ....ALLAH IS ARABIC TERM OF GOD ....U KNOW JEHOVA IN BIBLE HES ALLAH ,,,,,,MAY ALLAH GUIDE U
RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by jayaram on Aug 02, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Sir i agree with u .. i dont mean anything against the gods... i realize that that supreme one is only One and we have different ways of approaching him. I realize that The great one called Allah is the one whom we address by a different name ! BUT, SADLY TEH FOLLOWER JEHADI'S disappoint me ! Sorry 2 say..
RE:RE:AM REVERT MUSLIM .......ISLAM DONT SUPPORT WHAT ALL THIS MEN DOING
by jayaram on Aug 02, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Please lets stop talking bout God and faith.. our issues r only terrorists ..a majority of whom r Muslims ..Ok !We have no right 2 hurt a holy text or God !
the situation here might be like that of an elder brother who knows what his siblings are upto but can,t tell the parents as he can,t bear their pain through which they will pass if caught.
even if that might be the case here, in the long run it never helps.you have to face that pain.so better take precautions and behave like a responsible brother.
RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT but selfish
by Sheril Varghese on Aug 02, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
i have a feeling he relished propaganda for himself on this. else it would have been even more pvt. and his intentions of going back to australia!?? crazy, what is he trying to prove?!!
Every muslims (99.99 %)has radical links,becoz they act 5 time namaz & before & after Namaz Maulana & Hafiz saheb say some thing about Islam! Aussie are so idiot,how can they say like fool!!! Shut yrs mouth aussie & say sorry for guilty!!
RE:Radical link means what??????
by Sheril Varghese on Aug 02, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
oh so you 'act the namaz'. not really from deep within your heart eh!! so when you trying to fool people some people try to fool you. good going ausies ;-p
RE:Radical link means what??????
by Dave Raja on Aug 02, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
hi abdullah! being a moslem you dont know what 'radical' means??? let me explain you.(Let me also make it clear that I am not an Islam-hater and I dont say every moslem is a terrorist)Radical means, shouting slogans of PAKISTAN, despite being an INDIAN. Being born in India though, 99.99% moslems still think PAKISTAN is their saviour, their promised land. Go there and see how they treat you. Like beggars and sweepers. They call you 'Mohajirs' but majority of you still want to lick their ass.Radical means staying in Mahim, Mumbai and importing RDX etc from pakistan and preparing bombs and planting them in the unsuspecting, naive city of mumbai.Radical means, distributing sweets openly in public, lighting fireworks when pakistan defeats india in cricket.YES, this may sound trivial and small but it has a DEEP DEEP meaning to it. Tell me, where does Quran tell you to stab in back the country where you are born, your motherland, where you breathe air, whose water and food you consume..and YEAH, INCLUDING THE SALT... now you know what's RADICAL??? LEARN TO BE AN INDIAN FIRST AND THEN MOSLEMS OR HINDUS OR JEWS OR CHRISTIANS!!! VANDE MATARAM! VANDE MATARAM!! VANDE MATARAM!!!
RE:RE:Radical link means what??????
by Sheril Varghese on Aug 02, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
i would like to correct that. learn to be a human first. being fanatically patriotic is also not good okay. like the saying goes: anything in excess is dangerous ;-)
RE:Radical link means what??????
by avishek roy on Aug 02, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Yes now they should say sorry as they proved that they are really inefficient ... How can they release the terrorist haneef as it is ??? They are good for nothing ... Actually these days the terrorists are also educated and they take lot of care before the attacks ... These intelligent terrorist doctor and his terrorist cousins did remarkably good job to carry out the operations so nicely ... Only medicine to these idiots is 3rd degree , 4th degree and if possible 10th degree torture and that too in-front of the national television, so that other aspiring ones feels the heat and stop these barbaric activities ...
RE:Radical link means what??????
by KAUN on Aug 02, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
Every muslims (99.99 %)has radical links
might hold some water, but strongly disagree with reasons cited.
the reasons might be this concept of creating a alien bubble of "universal brotherhood" and abiding by it cohesivenesss.... and drifting towards further pseudo bonding beacuse of self created propaganda like "western hatred for "peace-loving-people,s-group".
Congrations to Dr Singh, PM, INDIA (for thinking lot with your sleepless nights) and Mr CM, Karnataka (for ur immediate offer to a Hero of Ur state ), for your good job in making free to your Fighter, Dr. Haneef and all the media for their continues support to make this happen....
Guys, just watch, a lot of things, will comp up soon.
RE:question to MUSLIMS
by mvasim on Aug 02, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Dear brother, To reply to your very relevant questions ... First let me reply to your last question first:
4)how to identify a good Muslim??? hannef,kafeel ..proved that despite education and wealthness muslims can be terroist??? .... Dear brother...Islam is not what the muslim does...IT IS WHAT HAS BEEN TAUGHT IN THE QUR'AN AND THE AUTHENTIC HADITH{which are the sayings, actions, orders of the prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)}. Anything that a Muslim does is not Islam...e.g.It is said in the Qur'an in the Chap5V32"..if any one slew a person-Unless it be for murder or for speading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life. It would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." Thus anyone who is hellbent on killing innocent people ..let it be Muslims or nonmuslims, then He has kilkled the entire humanity and thus has gone against the principles of Islam...Thus he cannot be a good Muslim...Education and wealth are immaterial in that matter...Is the USA which is the richest country&claims to have the best educational facilities not in the habit of killing innumerable innocent civilians in the whole of the world right from Hiroshima/Nagasaki,Vietnam,Panama,Central Americas&now Afghanistan,Iraq?Did their education make them anymore CIVILISED, MORE HUMANE?ANSWER IS THAT HUMANENESS CAN COME ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE ONE GOD AND THAT YOU HAVE TO RETURN TO FACE HIM ON THE LAST DAY...Hinduism also believes in i
RE:RE:question to MUSLIMS
by Dream Girl on Aug 02, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
That itself is a name given to India in hatred by Muslim invaders... Original name of this land is Bharath...
RE:question to MUSLIMS
by rupert lobo on Aug 02, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
listen shaikh what ever name it is called we are still the sons of the same nation just like you have three or four names but all represent you.
RE:question to MUSLIMS
by Anurag Shrivastava on Aug 02, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
Hey you Bozo - you want a Hindu nation like Nepal ? with a moron as a king and idiotic priests running the show. India needs to become secular- appeasement of muslims is not secularism. France is a secular nation which never appeases anyone on the basis of religion and hence a very happy place to be in !
I was a congress sympathiser earlier...now I feel after the election of currupt person as president and now the with kind of support given to haneef the terrorst...the congreess will be wiped out from india very soon... Any even without madani's issue the DMK will be wiped out very soon from tasmilnadu.
RE:Shame
by Sanjay Ranawat on Aug 02, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Make Afzal Guru the Vice President and Terrorist Dr Haneef as Head of All India Institute of Medical Sciences. Protect Minorities and Secularism. Dole out everything
