RE:Because...
by Indian on May 15, 2008 10:53 AM
haha boy u got it.afterall they learned so much in iit.Actually they are not cleaning foreign toilets they are just measuring the size of shit and its uses in power production
RE:Because...
by Harish Manwani on May 15, 2008 11:06 AM
I think a lot of people here have big problems with IITians, which is not surprising since these very same people would give an arm to get into IIT. If you have dum, slog it out and get in. Else claim to be OBC or Dalit or whatever and try to sneak in through the back door. If you can't manage that also, shut up.
RE:Because...
by sudeep on May 15, 2008 11:22 AM
thats a good idea. have u heard of gobar gas? even in your humor can we try to produce the power using the bio degradable materials??
The topic is: Returning to India for Jobs. So lets focus only factors influence job place.
Well, India is not still the super power. The big problems are : Reservations at job place and corruption and Horrible Governance.
After serving for a well known public sector for 10 years, I realized that people with lesser qualifications (than me) and with lesser experience are getting promotions. These are not based on merit but based on the reservations and quotas. It is not just me, many employees under 'merit' category remained where they are and juniors from 'reserved category' became the bosses. Why I have to serve India? So I left, and realized that there is a place for recognition, respect and of course the MONEY.
Along the same lines of thinking, many of batchmates from Indian Railways, have resigned and migrated to private sectors or to other countries. WHY???
Corruption is well known and omni-present in India.
Horrible governance: Our politicians want to divide people to castes, sub-castes. They champion populist politics. They do not know anything except the 'composition' of vote bank. Our foreign policies, EXIM policies, Agricultural and Industrial sectors have been spoiled and degraded over the years. The present growth (and also hype) is due to privatization. Our private sector has contributed mainly into this.
So, the world is out there - open to the able, stronger and positive outlookers. Just Enjoy, if you are talented. India looks much smaller then!!
RE:Jobs in India
by Dr Love on May 15, 2008 10:57 AM
BUT RUNNING ABROAD IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM EITHER.. ONE HAS TO FIGHT AGAINST ALL ODDS... ITS ALMOST LIKE FREEDOM STRUGGLE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS AT PROPER PLACE, IF YOU WANT A CLEAN SOCIETY, IF YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR FUTURE GENERATIONS BORN AND PROSPER IN INDIA.. BUT WHO WANTS TO DIE FOR THE COUNTRY... THATS WHY PEOPLE LEAVE THE COUNTRY...
RE:Jobs in India
by Nikhil Gupta on May 15, 2008 11:10 AM
Mahatma Gandhi came back to India when it was in worse condition. Why? Wasnt he having a better life in Africa? We all cant be like Gandhi, but we can try and improve the conditions here. all countries have corruption, some have at higher levels(US), some at all(India). Perspective is changing, we all need to contribute to it. Just cursing and sobbing on the issues doesnt resolve anything. We need to do whatever we can do, and hope for the best. If not us, then hopefully some future generation will reap the benefit, but losing hope is not the solution.
RE:Jobs in India
by GANESH K on May 15, 2008 11:32 AM
100% i agree with you. Corruption and current Reservation policy will make you to go abroad. We cannot tolerate when juniors get easy promotions based on caste rather than merit .
RE:Jobs in India
by Jagadesan Balakrishnan on May 17, 2008 12:26 AM
Instead of discussing here get out this damned country.....leave it for the reservationists!!!!
RE:Jobs in India
by menda vijaya on May 15, 2008 11:05 AM
There is no need to crib on reservtions.There are many areas where you can prove yourself if you are really meritorious. Merit based on 'system' which is prevalent in India is not merit.Please dont be under impression that peopleare waiting for indians to go there and rescue them from so many ills. It is not. No one depends on 'meritorious indians'. They go there earn money and pose as is if they are running other countries.It is pitiable situation bred by Indian media. Why do you blame politicians for caste vote banks ? They are other ovte banks such as Ram mandir vote bank, ram sethu vote bank, anti muslim vote vote bak, burn thechurches vote bank. So many banks!!! So be happy and live your life to the hilt.
RE:Jobs in India
by Venu gopal on May 15, 2008 11:12 AM
Very very good !!You said the fact..real fact..But if reservation in Private sector too what will we do?
IIT and IIM are godmen and they are patriots of modern india.Since their inception into Tech or b- school they have immense respect for the country.Thats all, khel khatam dukaan bandh
RE:So anyone comments on IIT and IIm fellows.It is due to their sheer jealousy
by Anurag Singh on May 15, 2008 11:00 AM
swati, itna hansne ki baat nahin hai baat sahi hai , khel khatam dukaan bandh
Top Professionals from IIT/IIM etc.. Get education from India..All crazy for Money go behind US and other countries... DO SOMETHING TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY (nature, pollution, agriculture etc)...INSTEAD OF CURSING POLITICANS FOR EVERY SINGLE REASONS...
RE:Shame on TOP PROFESSIONALS
by hari ray on May 15, 2008 10:46 AM
You rant on every issue. What you are doing for India? Does posting comments help India. Today, I am not in one upmanship. But giving you some thought to ponder over. regards.
RE:Shame on TOP PROFESSIONALS
by Kittappa on May 15, 2008 10:47 AM
good luck with your visa ; hope you will get it in the lottery...jealousy is not good
reading the comments here, i feel most of you are desperate to go to the US but you cant (either dont have the ability or luck )....so feeling jealous about others. Good luck guys! Hope you all can start anoher "quit India movement"
RE:sour grapes?
by mahesh on May 15, 2008 11:02 AM
tumhe jaana hain jao sallo , tumharee koi jarurat naheee hain yeh sab polotician se bhee gaye gujre hain
RE:sour grapes?
by apocalypto on May 15, 2008 10:44 AM
All these guys have applied for H1B Visas and due to the lot systems, they we denied visas.. Thats why pouring their grudge here.
Why IIT's and IIM's only there is No shortage of new Talent and millionaires in India. Young millionaires from Reliance, TATA, Cognizant, Infy, Wipro, Satyam,HCL, HP,IBM, Tier-B business and Engg's Salaries matchs the US, $50-60k/yr for an average 10 year old experience programmer or Manager. Starting salaries for 22 year old IT programmer and MBAs even from tier-B business schools are in the 6-10 lakh rupee and go up by 20-40% a year after that. A sizable amount of Indian population 400 Million will be moving into the middle class. As more people gain access to education and get integrated into domestic demand/supply and country GDP.
RE:Why IIT's and IIM's only there is No shortage of new Talent and millionaires in India.
by srikant on May 15, 2008 10:51 AM
why make heroes out of nothings
First of all hearty welcome to all my generation NRIs who chose to go abroad at that time. People like me who stayed in India after engineering graduation had seen this potential then. This is not Reverse Brain Drain. Rather it could be called "returned brains!". Hope this will inspire all NRIs as well.
RE:Not Reverse Brain Drain!
by Kittappa on May 15, 2008 10:48 AM
sorry to hear that you could not make it to the US after your graduation; good luck at least now. dont be jealous Niru. enamma, nimooru theerthahalli hathrana?
RE:RE:Not Reverse Brain Drain!
by Amit Kakri on May 15, 2008 10:52 AM
Kittu, there are still enough people in this country who are pround of its culture and its traditions regardless of its shortcomings and have never felt the need to emigrate abroad; this neither a case of sour grapes nor jealousy, its only about revealing the true side of all these brilliant minds; who are now returning after opportunities in the US have dried up!
RE:Not Reverse Brain Drain!
by Jagadesan Balakrishnan on May 17, 2008 12:29 AM
which fools are telling that the opportunities is US have dried up !!!! Are u believing the media ?????
RE:Not Reverse Brain Drain!
by sandy s shensun on May 15, 2008 10:44 AM
Well.. its the return of the people who always move towards greener pastures... first to US and then to India and then to.... let us not make a virtue of it.. its basically their selfishness driving them to india... the moment they get a better opportunity.. they'll scoot from india also..
India is just another land of engineers and doctors. Indian people suffers from a brain drain (rather a brain wash) , and they think that only IT, Engineering and doctor profession will fetch you a lot. Eventhough it is correct upto certain level, ultimately it does not serve the purpose of nation building.
What will happen to food security if all fellows pursue an IT job or a financial carreer?
Its all because of the innumerable cheap universities and colleges propping up everywhere .
People have a dream in their mind and end up doing someother job which they dont like at all.
Yes whats great. They are there where the money is. Thats simple. Again not generalizing. Some %age. This is not just for IITians. Its not wrong to see places and earn some money, but comment on what others are doing which they have previously. Ok, if some great % of them are coming back. Good. For how long? Let us see. Keep track of them and you will know abt it. Dont just write anything rediff. This is a useless topic when u have several other more important issues than this.
I have been reading articles here. Most of them are crap.
RE:Whats Great in IITians coming back to India?
by B P on May 15, 2008 10:48 AM
thats right. they show their experience and get more money here now. happens everywhere. it would be great if everyone atleast contributes a little to our country.jai hind
RE:Whats Great in IITians coming back to India?
by M R Honavar on May 15, 2008 10:55 AM
You are absolutely right. These routine IIT/IIM articles are sickening. It seems to be the business of rediff to make all and sundry participate in the rat race. Rediff is the Pied Piper of industrialists. They are doing their job perfectly !
We people are thinking only of oppurtunities and how much we can earn get either in India or abroad...we dont bother about our Indian natural forest, rivers, current pollution,our agriculture and its current situation.etc.. Money, Money, Money became our High motive... ALL TOP PROFESSIONALS FROM IIT/IIM etc..Please do some thing great to save ourselves to live peaceful life instead of scRewing our economy just going behind Money and blaming politicans for every single issue.
RE:We people are crazy of oppurtunities and Money
by M R Honavar on May 15, 2008 10:49 AM
You said it ! These people are not contributing in any way to enrichment of our national life. They are but servants and agents of the white man who are participating in the loot of the natural wealth of their own country. Their high education is of no good for the task of nation building. It is just a means to quick riches at the cost of impoverished masses. The way they dress and the way they speak, are plain indicators of how they are mere imitiations of the white man.