IIT was regarded was one of the prestigious institutes because every student that got into IIT was bcoz of their merit .. and every one that came out was because of its sheer hard work..
Now with reservation ( Arjun Singh ) like dumbs can go into IIT.. and pass out .. So you never know the Idiot you are speaking to is an IIT passed out... heee.heeee
Ashutosh gupta came back to India only after he worked for a few years in US, earned big enuogh bucks so that he could afford to get a big house in the posh areas of Gurgaon....He won't have STAYED back in India just after his graduation in any case....with the Dollar Rupee factor, Indians normally come back only after earning some good amopuont of money....and Yes, Ashutosh also wants some good IITians to join his company, that's y he's asking them to stay in India...Is he willing to give them a decent salary that 'll get them a small flat in Gurgaon....4-5 lpa for a fresher...what's that...It's time people like Ashutosh start thinking of others rather than themselves... Rahul
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by kumar mysore on May 15, 2008 12:32 PM
The problem is he has educated by Poor tax payers money of India. As somebody has already mentioned, no patriotism has been shown by these people, when Indian economy was in bad shape. All these no sense fellows are returning to India, when Indian economy has started showing its real strength
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by itsrenu on May 15, 2008 11:53 AM
wats ur problem if he buys a posh house..he worked hard and earned it..u did not donate him..and it is upto him whether he wants to think about giving employment to others..if ur an Ambani or narayana murthy u hav right to criticize..how many indians hav u employed in ur firm to question others?? practice before u preach.
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by rahul babbar on May 15, 2008 04:10 PM
the problem is that he went to US and earned some bucks but doesn't want to let the other IITians to go to US to earn....by saying that they don't need to go there...Now, this is hypocricy, isn't it?
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by itsrenu on May 15, 2008 12:04 PM
u proved to be 1..my reply was to rahul..btw gud luck 2 develop a timepass reliance..4 ur info im neither an iitian nor an iim graduate..i hav a engg n phd degree and im in research field..so u cant bash me for that..
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by timepass on May 15, 2008 12:24 PM
no need to give me ur bio-data as I can't marry u. I have a wife (and she is blonde and very very sexy).
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by Neeraj Mendiratta on May 15, 2008 01:14 PM
Timepass blonde is either an inflatable doll or playboy calendar. I'm sure your neighbors enjoy it too.
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by timepass on May 15, 2008 11:49 AM
The real story is he was laid off and on bench for 2 weeks, so he came back to India. Feel sad for his company who keeps him in an honorary post with no output.
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by Anna on May 15, 2008 12:02 PM
Twist in the Tale: See this is a problem for the people in the age 35 - 40. The kids start growing big and they are ready to embrace western culture. So our guys are pissed off and do a about turn and return back to their roots so that everything will be normal. Many of them continue abroad and allow their wards to embrace US culture and live lifelong. But coming back to india and painting yourself that enough is enough, I miss my daal chawal, I miss my country and all that crap after 10 - 12 years sounds illogical. Since you are scared and you dont want your son or daughter's future to go astray. you have taken a decision to come back. even I would have done the same thing which is best interest's of the family.
RE:RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by itsrenu on May 15, 2008 12:07 PM
nobody in the article has told that they r returning 2 india bcoz they felt the urge to serve their country.they hav cum back for their personal reasons..
RE:Why Ashutosh Gupta came back to India
by Michael Massey on May 15, 2008 12:10 PM
very well said Anna. I've always been saying that and totally agree with what you've said.
They are sucking the best brains, they are sucking the Tax payers money, they are getting all the fame and glamour, but India is getting nothing or very little.
All advantages are going to IITains and foreigners.
What ever IITains produced by Serving white skins in US/Europe, India is buying it at hefty price. Again a big burden on taxpayers.
The worst, they donot want to be answerable to Tax payers , on whose money they are flourishing.
Just criticize the IITs and you will start getting bitter reactions. All such reactions are because there is not even an iota of realization that it is Indian Taxpayer money.
RE:Flourishing on Tax payers money
by Rajan kasliwal on May 15, 2008 12:56 PM
The donont divert the topic. Dear geela parul First ,try to understand what is going on!!
The point of discusion is not You and Me but IItians.
Whenever the discussion come about other than IItians contribution features , you may argue like this. Be on track , donot run away from main discussions, Like IItans run away from India
RE:Flourishing on Tax payers money
by akila kumar on May 15, 2008 11:57 AM
Whatever you might say makes sense 50 years back, but most of the iits have been sponsored by foriegn collaboration and Ex iitians...and there are many iitians in india who are paying the highest amount of taxes than anyone can imagine...and how many iitians have joined social groups and awareness programs in india ( leaving out big offers just to give back to the country)...do not generalise what you think you know ...
RE:RE:Flourishing on Tax payers money
by Rajan kasliwal on May 15, 2008 12:59 PM
You may be right but it doesnot dilute their reponsibilty towards a indian taxpayer , irrespective of big and small.
RE:Flourishing on Tax payers money
by Neeraj Mendiratta on May 15, 2008 01:18 PM
Rajan, What liability towards tax payers? I paid lakhs to get my education. IITs don't run of tax-payers money more than any other national institute (example RECs). In our country when a large chunk doesn't even pay taxes, we IITians pay taxes through honest hard work and aspiration to excel. I'm not saying non-IITians don't, but we pay back to society more than what we took individually and more so collectively.
UBS Bank is Retrenching 12000 Employees in US and Europe. Citigroup is Retrenching 15000 Employees in US and Europe. Philips is Retrenching 5000 Employees in Europe. Out of top Fortune 500 MNC's 50% are Retrenching their Employees.
RE:Sameer's post
by a m on May 15, 2008 11:51 AM
Well said Sameer. And in spite og getting a green card, Indians still remain black/brown people for the White people.
IITians want themselves to be identified with the Whites, which unfortunately never will happen/has never happened.
Indeed as Adi Shankaracharya has pointed out, this world in nothing but an illusion.
RE:Sameer's post
by Neeraj Mendiratta on May 15, 2008 01:23 PM
Suraj, All I can say for you is this is all sour grapes (angoor khhatte hain). Everybody has their own reason(s) to return - laid off, children growing, better opportunity, nostalgai due to daal-chawal (hard to believe, but possible), 3 hour long movies with unnecessary songs, smell of dung, sound of car horns, smell of deisel...call it whatever. They chose to go to US, make their lives better. Or some it worked out and they want to retun. For some it didn't and they are returning. But at the end of day, they are contributing to society. Are you? If yes, good for you and you are equally better. If not, then go and do some.
Nobody in the US give a rat's asss if they are from IIT and 98% do not even know what IIT is. Also, we shud have no respect for people who do engineering and want to work as managers for fat salaries. Its ridiculous and they bring no value to society. Also, they are all nerds and the most retarded social animals who make Indians are laughing stock in USA.
RE:Stop harping about stupid IIT-ans
by akila kumar on May 15, 2008 11:59 AM
with ppl like you ...anyone can be a laughing stock...have you stepped out of the country...You need a good manager to even rule a country...and if we guys are stupid managers...Man..I cannot imagine where you stand...it is like the fox and the sour grapes story...
Why IIT's and IIM's only there is No shortage of new Talent and millionaires in India. Young millionaires from Reliance, TATA, Cognizant, Infy, Wipro, Satyam,HCL, HP,IBM, Tier-B business and Engg's Salaries matchs the US, $50-60k/yr for an average 10 year old experience programmer or Manager. Starting salaries for 22 year old IT programmer and MBAs even from tier-B business schools are in the 6-10 lakh rupee and go up by 20-40% a year after that. A sizable amount of Indian population 400 Million will be moving into the middle class. As more people gain access to education and get integrated into domestic demand/supply and country GDP.
UBS Bank is Retrenching 12000 Employees in US and Europe. Citigroup is Retrenching 15000 Employees in US and Europe. Philips is Retrenching 5000 Employees in Europe. Out of top Fortune 500 MNC's 50% are Retrenching their Employees.
UBS Bank is Retrenching 12000 Employees in US and Europe. Citigroup is Retrenching 15000 Employees in US and Europe. Philips is Retrenching 5000 Employees in Europe. Out of top Fortune 500 MNC's 50% are Retrenching their Employees.
