Plz. don't get into the thought that India as a country or even the growth of Indian economy is pulling these IITians back to India. Even with a slow economy, the dollar to rupee ratio stands quite substantial even today.... The main point is that every IITian is not axcessively intelligent or has the calibre to prove themselves in situations of challenge and adversity, and believe me this comes from personal experience after working with quite a few of them and realizing the myth that every IITian is extraordinarily gifted...
So, its very clear... the ones who had the calibre to fight it out and survive or even thrive are still there.... the ones who did not have the fire in them to face challenge lost out or got retrenched and just fled back...its got nothing to do with reverse brain drain... its simply a phenomenon of escapism....
Those who have the guts to refuse lucrative offers after passing out and stick to the country and work here are a different case... but surely not these escapists...
While most of the reasons bandied about here are of some cognizance, they are none the less not the pivotal one. The pivotal reason is this that guys from IIT & IIMs stagnate after a period in time in the US. i.e if they do not have a MBA/MS degree from the IVY LEAGUE colleges. The most these guys can aspire to reach is the middle management levels of US corps without a degree from the top universities.
While a degree from IIT/IIM guarantees a good placement (read cheap labour) in terms of dollar salary, they do not help in career progression in the US & Europe. Some of these guys go on to get additional qualifications and progress, rest retire to India where their qualifications guarantee them "IVY LEAGUE" status.
This brings us to the question - are Indian top league educational institutions sub par to the top institutions globally. The answer sadly is YES. While Indians are good at technical skills, its only this aspect that is reinforced in these premier institutes. Business & enterprise requires others skills like interpersonal skills, entrepreneurship, team skills, risk assessment etc which sadly is not our forte, neither do our college incubate.
Ofcourse the assessment does not speak for every individual case, however generally this holds true.
The the case of reverse brain drain is only a case of unfullfilled aspiration meeting opportunity in India.
These kind are not happy anywhere and not accepted anywhere. Just wait and they will start cribbing about India soon just like they are cribbing about missing home food and music in USA. BTW, u can get any Indian food and music in USA.
I know many IITans and found all are jokers and only go by book and not practical...fools...They increase salary for good looking girls and not for real workers...fools
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:44 PM
Yeah, it was meant to be vestigeal but men used it so much that it went against the "use & disuse" theory....we are more evolved because we lost it.....because we used our time and brains diligently and not busy half the time playing round...
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by kapil on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM
please believe me..iam telling the truth...they never think of practical and go for theory..do u think it correct? Also personally knows many senior IITans who have more than 25 years experience but unfortunatly they are going after girls and their boo...if you have big boo they increase double salary
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM
No, I believe you...I can show you Harvard or MIT educated for that matter...its nothing to do with where you graduate....Its from where you think
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by kapil on May 15, 2008 12:30 PM
of course "all" are wrong...for your info met more than 10 and found 9 are going after girls..only one guy who is from Andra Pradesh is a right guy...
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM
that is the weakness of every men...not necesarrily an IITian...and not limited only to india.....
Men think from between their legs..... Its human....
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by timepass on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM
At least we have something between our legs. Women have holes in head and between legs too. Women shud stick to household stuff. Feminism is the biggest curse of our times.
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM
Yeah, it was meant to be vestigeal but men used it so much that it went against the "use & disuse" theory....we are more evolved because we lost it.....because we used our time and brains diligently and not busy half the time playing round...
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:54 PM
yeeeeesssss till we lost it to evolution.... I know it is tooo much for you to imagine.... but oneday you will realize what i say
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by Neeraj Mendiratta on May 15, 2008 01:07 PM
And I guess that's why you married a blonde - for her holes? You call yourself happy and proud, yet speak like a dumbass.
RE:what is so important about IITans?
by kapil on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM
agreed then dont give them high society standards...treat them like normal people...
IIT ians are returning to India only because now India has shown its mightin econo0mical and military powers. Whet these selfish IITians have done for the country? They studied on the tax payers money and gave their valuable life time to the foreigners, which could have utilized for the upcoming of pors and illeterates. Now as the country's condition is improved they just want to reap the harvest without doing anything .Today if unfortunately the condition reverts these will again go shamelessly to US / UK for more money and lavish life. This is not the patriotism which they were supposed to show after getting the best of education in the country. Since going to US has become extreamly difficult, they have taken the mask of patriotism .Shame on them
RE:Playing double game
by shashank chauhan on May 15, 2008 12:26 PM
You are saying shame on them as if you wld not have done the same were you in thr position. IITians abroad have done a great deal buddy, perhaps its because the efforts of some of these fellows that India is now a force to reckon with. And as per as what they have done for India, there's something called AID (Association for India's Development) which has over 40 chapters in US, all doing tremendous work. Agar aap utna bhi kar lo to desh ki haalat sudhar jaaye.
Sitting in the comforts of one's house, all we do is write hate mssgs on rediff, spit venom and vent out our frustrations. Life is too short for negative thoughts my dear friend, if u are so concerned about how the country is moving, stop cribbing about others over here and get into action.
And one last thing, hate wont lead us anywhere, our past proves how vulnerable we are to divide and rule philosophy, so better have some faith and learn how to stick for one another.
RE:Playing double game
by prasanna on May 15, 2008 12:26 PM
WHAT IS WRONG IN THAT? THEY GO WHERE THE OPPURTUITY STRIKES..WHO WILL LIKE TO STAY IN INDIA WITH ALL THESE CORRUPTIONS AND RESERVATIONS..YOU NEVER GOT AN OPPURTUNITY SO YOU HAVE STAYED BACK IN INDIA..IF YOU HAD GOT ONE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST NEXT TO THE PIOLET SET IN THE AIR
RE:Playing double game
by NARAYANAN KARUPPANCHETTY on May 16, 2008 04:30 PM
POINT1:If you find opportunity to make more money(legal and ethical way) just do it. Dont balame others(who are successful). POINT2:Ok you studied and also working in India what you have done for the countries improvement(from your after tax money)....be honest it is nothing. POINT3:where you studied where you work where you are doesnt matter....what really maters is what you do for your country...
RE:Playing double game
by CAMPU COTIYA on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM
Excellent inference sandeep.... If after 10 yrs Pakistan will become economic power, these IITians will learn URDU and go there for job. In one word you can describe them, SELFISH. They love materialistic life and they value mother nation below their own wishes.
However, there are many IITians who stayed here and giving their 100% for the nation. We must respect them also.
Last but not the least, there are many people who couldn't even made to the IIT campus but are still shining in various sectors to let India grow.
RE:Playing double game
by Logic Induction on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM
The dollar cow has been milked. The dowry of US-based groom has been taken. The children are born there with US citizenship. The parents have shown their upper hand among localites.
RE:Playing double game
by Bharath raj on May 15, 2008 12:14 PM
Idiot which world are you in ?As of now India is only casteism all the backward uneducated people get into IIT and the genuine people go to US for a better life.Dont be jealous of IIT ,its becasue IIT indians became famous and all the companies started Investing.
RE:US economy is down- and getting worse
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:04 PM
so that they could sink on their own than with the ship.....hahahahhaa....
true...after seeing the ungreatful fellowmen and women of our country.....it seems that you might be right....they are coming back to sink here than in USA
RE:US economy is down- and getting worse
by timepass on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM
LOL. Un grateful?? Are you saying we shud be gr8ful for useless IIT-ans heading back to India? They will be a liability for any company they join and soon will get the boot here also as the IIT myth bursts.
RE:US economy is down- and getting worse
by Sam on May 15, 2008 12:13 PM
ha..ha.. let them go and drive in delhi BRTC corridor.. and the corruption, crime , pollution. these short sighted people will be running back to america. I am happy being in canada and have no plan to return back permanently to india.. india sucks all the time.
Unlike in India, you stagnate in USA pretty soon.YOU DON'T GET SUCH SALARY hikes and promotions like in Indian corporates.
So, after sometime people lose motivation to work hard ....so in order to give more meaning to their life they are coming back.
Had money been the factor only....then in dollar conversion they have to be GM of a company to have that salary scale.
So, money is never an incentive to come back. Anyday they will earn less than that in USA in India.....EXCEPTIONS ARE OF COURSE THERE BUT GENERALLY THEY will not earn...
RE:Unbiased look at the scenario
by timepass on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM
Only useless fellows like IITans with no social skills stagnate in US. I am not from IIT, but am immensely respected at work, have American friends, a blonde wife. Feel sorry for IITans. They are turning into dhobi ka koootas.
RE:Unbiased look at the scenario
by Neeraj Mendiratta on May 15, 2008 01:11 PM
Dear timepass, Stop mentioning your blonde inflatable doll...Its called s3x toy, not wife. Unless you are just jerking off (both literally and metaphorically), I'm surprised someone would marry you. And if you don't get my sarcasm, ask an IITian - I'm sure he/she will explain it you.
RE:Unbiased look at the scenario
by geela parul on May 15, 2008 12:07 PM
why timepass.... have you not seen north indian girls in india? we have white people here too !!!
Well it is their personal decision - the single most important factor being the opportunities now available here & not so favourable chances in USA.They should realise that they owe a lot to their motherland in addition to their kith & kin as their edu.in IIT was highly subsidised.Each one must ensure the progress of their family,school,college,village/city,community in all possible ways & adopt at least two students preferably orphans/underprevilaged from primary to graduation level.Their focus must be in promotion of edn & est of business concerns.They should project as a ROLE model in their chosen field ,In short wellfare of society which had sacrifised its past & present for their future.Love your mother & motherland in addition to the wealth created by them.Dr.Prabhakar
