Ratan Tata has made a huge mistake by investing in Bengal......he has no right to take decisions on his personal whims and fancies....ultimatly the shareholders will suffer.....at the end of the day its the stakeholders money not his own.
RE:Huge mistake by Ratan Tata
by Hemanshu Mumbaiwala on Aug 27, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
Then is it not the responsibility of the "stakeholders" to take care of "their" employees?
RE:RE:Huge mistake by Ratan Tata
by akhil kapoor on Aug 27, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
Tata's will have pullout of Bengal for the sake of their employees and to complete this project....this will be a huge financial burden on the company
Its a fact that Tata wanted 1500 acre of land almost at peanut price.He cud have manufactured the same in TATA Motors in Pune or in Jamshedpur.Now he is not ready to pay money to poor farmers but want to earn moeny thru third class technology like Indica he has.
RE:Tata chor hai
by Harsh on Aug 27, 2008 11:07 AM Permalink
its wrong... if u wanna manufacture a car at Rs.1 lakh, u'll hv to leave a costly place like Pune.. It'll also help poor areas like singur to get develope. Tata will definitely help them.
RE:Tata chor hai
by Kabeer on Aug 27, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
For all those who are screaming hoarse their lungs out in this blog in support of Ratan Tata, please answer me honestly, if you want.
In Bombay you got two whacking stadia Brabourne & Wankhede in the prime business district where only a couple of cricket matches are played in a year.
Govt asked the land be sold to any one and build multi storeyed office space there. The ongoing office space rates are already one of the highest in the world there i.e Nariman Point.
The owners of the stadia i.e Private Clubs refused to sell that land stating that it is their private property and they can do whatever they like with it. Selling it to build multi storeyed offic space for the good of the nation didnt bother them. Every educated person supported them stating that it is their property and they can do what they like and the GOvt has no say in it.
FINE!
Now, in Singur, the land is alluvial soil i.e. the richest arable soil irrigated by the gangetic tributaries over millenia. The farmers are tilling that land for centuries and are makiing a living out of it.
What moral right has anyone to force them to sell their lands to the Tatas?
If you are rich you get away by builing whacking stadia in the prime business district of the nation.
If you are poor you are forced to sell your best farming land to some one else and you have no say in it?
Are all those educated lot who are screaming hoarse here believe in equality and common rights? Or are they regurgit
RE:Tata chor hai
by Harsh on Aug 27, 2008 11:10 AM Permalink
If one says Indica" is a 3rd class product, it doesn't mean its poor.. but Technically 1 has to see "had he/she maintained it well & enough to live on indian Roads". Lazy people will argue like this only.. who can't manage to use a car in good condition. Me, as an auto engr., nobody can refuse my 'say'.
RE:Tata chor hai
by akhilesh dixit on Aug 27, 2008 11:51 AM Permalink
The fact that more than 9 lacs Indica has been sold shows its success. There were initial problem but as an Indian we must know this was first ever car designed in India so some problem would be there, else you can keep on importing cars or techologies from Japan,germany and watse Forein exchange.
RE:Tata chor hai
by ashish singh on Aug 27, 2008 11:45 AM Permalink
Oye Viren, Tujhe kuch businees ka ABC maaloom hai kya, Tu kya be Ferrari se chalta hai! jo Indica ko 3rd class product batata hai, jis bhi city main tu rahta hai jara waha count kar aur fir bol kitni indica sadak par chalti hai.
For your information har company investment cost dekh kar chalti hai, ye blogs likhna aasan hai par jara kabhi kisi company ka investment plan bana kar bata fir maaloom hoga.
RE:Tata chor hai
by Kabeer on Aug 27, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
For all those who are screaming hoarse their lungs out in this blog in support of Ratan Tata, please answer me honestly, if you want.
In Bombay you got two whacking stadia Brabourne & Wankhede in the prime business district where only a couple of cricket matches are played in a year.
Govt asked the land be sold to any one and build multi storeyed office space there. The ongoing office space rates are already one of the highest in the world there i.e Nariman Point.
The owners of the stadia i.e Private Clubs refused to sell that land stating that it is their private property and they can do whatever they like with it. Selling it to build multi storeyed offic space for the good of the nation didnt bother them. Every educated person supported them stating that it is their property and they can do what they like and the GOvt has no say in it.
FINE!
Now, in Singur, the land is alluvial soil i.e. the richest arable soil irrigated by the gangetic tributaries over millenia. The farmers are tilling that land for centuries and are makiing a living out of it.
What moral right has anyone to force them to sell their lands to the Tatas?
If you are rich you get away by builing whacking stadia in the prime business district of the nation.
If you are poor you are forced to sell your best farming land to some one else and you have no say in it?
Are all those educated lot who are screaming hoarse here believe in equality and common rights? Or are they regurgit
We should proud of Mr. Ratan Tata our great, Reputed and most respected Industrilist who is first greatest human being then industriest.He is so much concern about his employees at Sangur that he can shift this project to some other place withour any worries of his investment. He is a real Kohinoor of India. My salute to him for is such bold decission.
BUT WHY MAMATA IS AGAINST IT. SHE DID NOTHING FOR INDIA'S DEVELOPMENT. ONLY OPENED HER FILTHY MOUTH TO FOOL THE COMMON MAN. EVEN THE COMMIES HAVE CHANGED. SHE SHOULD SEE CHINA AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY. THERE IS A REAL THREAT TO THE INDIAN INDUSTRY FROM VESTED INTEREST WHO WANT TO PUT ALL THE HURDLEES IN INDIA'S PROGRESS. THEY PAY THESE PEOPLE TO HOODWINK THE POOR MISGUIDED PUBLIC AND PROMPT THEM TO PROTEST. IT'S HIGH TIME THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE LEAGALY TREATED FOR DISRUPTING PROGRESS AND DESTROYING PROPERTIES AND FIGHTING AGAINST NATIONAL INTEREST. ALL THE POLITICIANS SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE REGARDING THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS WHILE ON CHAIR AND SHOULD BE SUMMORLY PUNISHED FOR NON PERFORMANCE. WE SHOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER MP'S MLA'S COUNCILLORS ETC. EVERY BODY WHO IS ELECTED OR IN THE POLITICAL SYSTEM SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE IN ALL RESPECTS, WITH SEVERE PUNISHMENTS FOR NON PERFORMANCE, ABATEMENT,FINANACIUAL MIS APPROPRIATION ,CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES, NAPOTISM.
TATA'S ARE GRATE. RATAN IS THE ONLY INDIAN INDUSTRIALIST WHOSE NAME DOES NOT FOGURE IN THE FORBES LIST. WHICH CLEARLY SHOWS THAT HIS INTEREST IS BEYOND PERSONAL AMASSMENT OF WEALTH. THIER WORK IN THE PHILANTHROPIC FIELD IS COMMANDABLE. THEY ARE TRUE INDIANS AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THEIR ACHIEVEMENT.
HUMILIATION METED TO SUCH INDUSTRIAL GROUP SHOULD BE REDICULED BY ALL PROUD INDIANS.
RE:RE:Nano an Exceptional Indian invention
by prasad gutta on Aug 27, 2008 11:12 AM Permalink
Mr. Paniker I admire the spirit. We can't help politician for obvious reasons. But on the name of industrial promotion productive land cannot be diverted, for it can pose problems that directly affect the nation as a whole. We have vast stretches of waste land, not justified to a most population nation like ours. On the other hand countries like Israel and the like, though not so populous have gone by far ahead in optimal utilization of scarce resources. Wisdom therefore lies in utilizing waste land for industrial promotion with necessary infrastructural support from Government. Crux of the problem is that the states not bothered on infrastructural establishment are going panic and enthusing investment in a haphazard manner. Let wisdom prevail at least now and administration focus its attention on prioritization and deciding on the land zoning for future prosperity.
RE:Nano an Exceptional Indian invention
by narendra bande on Aug 27, 2008 11:55 AM Permalink
Mr. Prasad, I agree to you. As we will start giving the fertile lands to Industries, the agricultural productivity will be less. But TATA's must be offered some more than that. They must have been assured some tax exemptions or something like that. Also in India, the farmers are getting no money and no industry giant is coming forward for the same. All the retailers are buying products from the Brokers/Niddle man. The grain prooducts are getting sold at atleast 50% less to the Middle man and we pay more because the middle man has the space to store. About an year back, one big farmer fired onto Indian Govt. He was asking for allowing him to distribute and sell his grains to any part of India. He was asking Govt that who is govt to stop him when all the non agri products are allowed to sell in any part of India. He says that he was pretty confident and enough money to do on his own. But unfortunately, every farmer is not like him. So coming back to the point, if the farmers will sell their lands, they will be offered jobs for Singur pplant. As the car will be Rs 1 lakh, so jjust figure out how much will be the sales and hw many will be the jobs provided. If you will look at AP, only Hydrabad is the place which is very well developed not even Vizag whereas Vizag has centuries old business in shipyards.. Atleast Singure plant will help the otherside of the WB to earn also. Narendra
Do not believe these people. They call themselves communists and spend crores on Kali and Durga puja. They were always against the centre and spoiled innocent Biharis and UPite's by asking them and making them travel free in rail and also occup[y forcebly lands and other important govt. positions illegally.Bangals have ruined this country. Then, why blame Kashmir muslims?
RE:They are from the same bag or Bostha as we call it
by sandip on Aug 27, 2008 11:16 AM Permalink
You are a big as*h**e , dont make such comments if dont know any thing about bengalis, u south Indians are feeding milk when we brought u the independence
RE:They are from the same bag or Bostha as we call it
by bunty on Aug 27, 2008 11:41 AM Permalink
Before talking about south or north and milk feeding etc.,please understand independence struggle was going on all over India and not in Bengal only. Better to come out of the well to see the world fully - before describing the world like a frog either from Bengal well or anywhere. Independence is the achievement of all Indians and not anybody"s ancestral property to claim.
RE:They are from the same bag or Bostha as we call it
by sandip on Aug 27, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
I meant only south indians , we means the whole north india , your belong to that category of people that takes the credit of some else acheivemnt in to your own pocket. Please dont comment on the patriotism and achievement of bengalis
RE:They are from the same bag or Bostha as we call it
by bunty on Aug 27, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
Now India is in this sad state of affairs particularly in Bengal - due to people like you.Unless and untill u come out of your narrow vision expressed - no Geetanjali or God can save people like you. You have no knowledge of history and patriotisam of all Indians. Be happy with your BUNDH culture and please do not escalate to South or North and be it there in the north east corner of great ONE INDIA !!
WHO EVER SAY WHAT EVER THEY WANT, BUT USING THE FERTILE AGRICULTURE LANDS WITH ABUNDANCE OF WATER FOR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSE IS A SIN LET SOME INDUSTRIALIST BUY IT AND CONTINUE AGRICULTURE IN AN EFFICIENT WAY. THERE ARE ABUNDANT BARREN LAND, LET THE INDUSTRIALISTS GO AND BUILD INDUSTRIES THERE.
RE:SIN
by parvez chougle on Aug 27, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
I support your statement, and would further say that if government continues to source fertile land for industries and SEZ's (like in Maharahtra) we will have to beg for food from other countries soon.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Islam Means Peace..
by prasad gutta on Aug 27, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
Indians (include every religion, caste and creed) by nature are peace loving. Real Indian is a true patriot. Communal harmony prevails in India only for the above reason. So far in politics, Muslims are segregated to win their Vote, because our politics are only to win the vote and come to power. Congress at least of late (post Nehru period) has been following this trait and others follow suite shamelessly. This is in effect has been sensitizing the native Hindus. Discussions and deliberations in the right spirit should be based on the above truth. Any human being with the necessary rationale in his/her thinking should not mislead by any force with ulterior motive behind.
Mamata Banerjee is doing an irresponsible politics in solving the singur issue. It is better to call a Nano project which not only uplift the standard of living of the people of that place but also enhance the development process of West Bengal. It will help to create the employment opportunities of the unemployed youthsof this state. She does not want to sit in consultation table with the govt.Is it a healthy polities? The land -loss farmers should be more facilities and their grievances must be taken into account in solving the problem. Hope, good sense and honest-wish will arouse in the mind of all political leaders.
RE:Singur issue
by Prakash Bhattacharya on Aug 27, 2008 11:29 AM Permalink
First we have seen land was taken from so called Jotdars and Jamidars (even the poor congies were also in that category). Now the hypocrat commies are transferring the same to the Indusutrialiists. Can you please tell who would the next transferees? Can you recall those days when Metal Box, GKW, etc. companies were closed and Philips, etc. companies were forced to move out of Kolkata due to the agitation of CITU? Please commies, do not show your hypocracy again? Last thirty years we the bengalis were trained to stage demonstration, agitation, gherao, etc. How can we forget its applications within 30 days? It is the achievement of the Commies to include the word "GHERAO" in OXFORD Dictionary. Are you not proud of that? Can you please tell us the amount of cut-money given to CPIM by the TATAs for Singur? Why the agreement is so confidential to the Government? Is it threatning the safety and security to our country? My dear commies please come out. Lastly, please tell me why highly fertile land in Singur has been selected when we have a large bank barren lands of infinite number of closed factories? Are the cadres of CPIM party planning to develop buildings in those places? Is there any commy who can clarify me?
RE:Singur issue
by yogi thakur on Aug 27, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
FARMERS HAS BEEN KILLED WHY DONT THESE POLICE GUYS SHOOT MAMTA AND CLOSE THE ISSUE ONCE FOR ALL. THE PROBLEM IS NIETHER THE LAND NOR NANO OR TATA BUT ONLY DIRTY POLITICIANS.
LET US TRY TO GET IN TO POLITICS MY DEAR YOUNG GENERATION AND CLEAN THIS MESS
