The knowledge of a Satguru like you is correct. Should we not condemn the false-knowledge preached by all these fraud preachers?
In this world only atheist is the fraud preacher and you should condemn such fraud preachers who preach that God does not exist. All the other preachers who accept the existence of God are not fraud teachers and therefore nobody should condemn them. A person who teaches that you should not go to the school at all is a fraud teacher and should be vehemently condemned. But all the teachers in the school or college or university are not fraud teachers. They are true teachers who suit to different levels of the students. You should not scold the schoolteacher after going to college. When you leave the college and go to the university you should not scold the lecturer of the college after hearing to the University professor. The schoolteacher, the college lecturer and the University professor constitute the ladder of knowledge for all the students to climb up. The lower step should not be condemned after reaching the higher step. In the lower stage of knowledge there will be some errors and mistakes, which suit the students of that level. Gita says the same (Sarvarambhahi doshena).
The schoolteacher preaches the idol-worship, which is suitable to the lowest cadre. In this stage people are with full jealousy and egoism. Their mental capacity is also low. Due to egoism and jealousy they cannot worship the human form of Lord.
Re: Knowledge of a Satguru
by anil atnony on Jul 07, 2009 02:08 PM Permalink
Continuied... Due to low mental capacity they cannot imagine formless God who is all pervading like space or cosmic energy. Moreover the devotion needs the worship of a limited form. Devotees want to serve the Lord and they cannot serve the formless Lord. Due to these points, a statue, which is a representative model is the best at this stage. The college lecturer preaches the formless God. The mental capacity of the student is grown to imagine the all-pervading God like space or energy. But the egoism and jealousy are not removed. So the student goes to the second step and meditates upon the formless God due to higher mental capability, but cannot worship the human form of the Lord due to egoism and jealousy.
Therefore, due to the mistakes present in the students, the knowledge of that stage should be also erroneous to suit the students. In this second stage the all-pervading nature of God is realised, but not the living nature of God. When the jealousy and egoism are completely eradicated and the mind is completely purified (Chitta Suddhi), Sankara says that such a student is eligible for ‘Brahma Jnana Yoga’, which is university level. At this final stage the student recognises and accepts the human form of Lord. The student worships the limited human form and also gets all his or her doubts clarified. This facility of living nature is not available in formless God or statue.
Re: Re: Knowledge of a Satguru
by anil atnony on Jul 07, 2009 02:09 PM Permalink
Continuied............
But unless the egoism and jealousy are completely removed this final stage is not at all possible. The student after doing P.G.course at University level goes to higher levels like Ph.D or post-doctoral level. In this last stage a student is fixed on the concept of monoism or advaita. In this stage the student believes that the human body of the Lord and the Lord are one and the same like the electric wire and the electricity. In this stage whatever the human incarnation says is Veda and whatever the human incarnation does is Dharma. The student will not search Vedas or Dharma Sastras to verify what the Lord said is in Veda or not or what the Lord did is Dharma or not? Hanuman and Gopikas were students of such research level. Dharma Raja was a P.G.Student only.
When the Lord ordered him to tell a lie in the war Dharma Raja verified the Lord’s word in Dharma Sastra and refused to tell the lie. The Veda available today is a very small portion of the total Veda said by the Lord. The present Vedas are only one-year recitation of sage Bharadwaja who recited Vedas for 300 years. Even after 300 years, the sage found the remaining Vedas as large hills. Whatever he recited in 300 years was only a handful stone of that hill. This is said in Veda (Anantavai Vedah). Since the Lord is the author of Veda, the research student believes that whatever is said by the human incarnation is Veda, which may exist in the remaining part of Veda.
In the word Satguru (Lord in human form), the prefix ‘Sat’ means truth. A Satguru always preaches the truth. Truth is always harsh and is not liked by several people. Therefore a Satguru will have only very few disciples. A Satguru says that the path with thorns will lead to the Lord. People will not like this. He also says that the path with flowers leads to hell. People will not be happy with this preaching. A Guru preaches which several people like. The Guru says that the nature of the goal will be the nature of the path. Since the Lord is full of bliss the path also must be with flowers giving happiness. Since the hell is giving you lot of pain the path with thorns which also gives lot of pain must lead to the hell. This argument is very attractive.
Several people will like this and will become the followers of Guru. Several people will praise him and give lot of Guru Dakshina because his argument is pleasant. But a Satguru says that the path with thorns alone will lead to the Lord because in this path you have to cut the bonds with your family and with your hard-earned money. Sacrifice gives lot of pain and sacrifice alone will lead to the Lord. The path with flowers strengthens your bonds with your family and money which gives you lot of happiness. Such path leads to the hell.
Several people do not like such argument and so only one or two persons who can realize the truth will become His disciples.
Re: Differentiate Satguru & Guru
by anil atnony on Jul 07, 2009 02:04 PM Permalink
But a Satguru says that the path with thorns alone will lead to the Lord because in this path you have to cut the bonds with your family and with your hard-earned money. Sacrifice gives lot of pain and sacrifice alone will lead to the Lord. The path with flowers strengthens your bonds with your family and money which gives you lot of happiness. Such path leads to the hell.
Several people do not like such argument and so only one or two persons who can realize the truth will become His disciples. A Satguru will never worry about the number of the disciples and about the quantity of Guru Dakshina. Even if a single disciple is available He is happy. Majority always goes to hell. Only one in millions like Sankara, Vivekananda, Meera can reach the Lord. Diamonds are always in minority. Gravel stones are in majority. Therefore a Satguru will be only one in thousands of Gurus and a true disciple will be only one in millions of disciples.
When you are doing prayers you are praising the Lord as a poet praises a king. The foolish king may give some gift to the poet. But the omniscient Lord can never be fooled by such praise. When you sing songs are chant the name of the Lord or express the feelings of devotion by shedding tears or by meditation you are getting the happiness and peace immediately. You have achieved the fruit. The Lord will not give another fruit for these things.
Do not generalise... there are fakes in every field. It depends upon the level of the person he gets guru. Why people should go to these kind persons.. because most of the people go to some fake spritualists for material benefits, I want this, I want that.. by understanding one's material benefits these fakes are growing up. if you are real in real search really the Guru will come to you.. it is true.. and my experience..
My first guru is my father from whom I have learnt a lot. Spiritually we had our guru at Vrindavan from the Swami Haridas Parampara who is now an heavenly soul. I am not capable enough to describe him or his qualities. He was like a fragrance which can only be felt and purifies you to the core. I bow my head in his reverence. Jai Bihariji.
My Guru Dr.PB Sreenivos Madhura Kanta has inspired me very much. He is the one who has sung Mukunda Mala on Lord Krishna and through his Cassette and by His Blessings, I could learn verses in Sanskrit. My Guru has written beautiful wordings on "WELCOME TO ALL ART LOVERS" and this has reached all over the world and liked by all the singers.
