It is most unfortunate that every body speaks of researvation for a particular community and hence dividing the nation by cast.Mayawati also speaks of researvation for upper cast including brahmin. However no body makes any effort to create the job. Jobs in Govt. sector are limited and the benefit of researvation is limited to only few families and thus depriving the majority of the people. Also people joing the service on researvation are generally not accepted by the society. For the nation to come at the top, such facilities should be stopped immediately. Instead every body should get equal opportunity to excell in their profession. Worthy people may create job and that helps the society as well as the nation.
Re: Why not Kshatriyas?
by barani kumaran on Mar 31, 2009 04:04 PM
Only SC/ST are given reservation in the central govt. for other castes they have to submit their obc certificate which is based on the total earnings of a family.
Re: Why not Kshatriyas?
by rock on on Mar 31, 2009 03:48 PM
Nobody should get reservation, kshatriyas included. Even economically poor should not get reservation. The only thing they should get is financial help, rest should be on merit.
Re: Re: Why not Kshatriyas?
by Ritesh on Mar 31, 2009 04:07 PM
I totally agree with 'Rock On'. We dont need anything more than financial help. And any party that dares to bring this in its election manifesto will win with at least 80% majority. Only, the 'upper' caste should get out of the comfort of their homes to vote.
Only one occupation will remain , that is agriculture, so everyone has to work his a s s off in paddy fields under hot sun, no more education and job reservations will be required.
If brahmins get reservation, then so should the kshatriyas, the kayasthas, the baniyas, vaishnavas, the yadavs, the christians, the muslims, every community get reservation also.
Re: But
by Rajni Mishra on Mar 31, 2009 04:17 PM
Reservation is not and never can be a panacea to shoo away all the social evils. Reservation however is bread and butter of local regional political outfits. Unfortunately the bug has also bitten the national political parties because their survival in the changed circumstances is at stake.
tell me one caste or religion from which people are not rich and not earning money....this reservation business is a political issue and nothing to do with social justice. Social justice will be prevailed if reservation will be based on economic condition regardless the caste ot religion.....be a hindu or muslim or any other religion or cast reservation must be based on economic condition. what happening now is politics and vote bank politics. GOD SAVE INDIA
Re: reservation based on economic condition
by Bharatiya on Mar 31, 2009 03:48 PM
Right Sameer. The reservation is always given to castes that have large populations.
Merit has never been given respect in this country.
when you are telling a person that he can be assured of seat/job, everything, without effort...what kind of situation that creates? it is very very defeating.. and harmful to both the parties...the educated is not awarded and the awarded is not educated... it is a lose all option.
Re: it's a lose-lose option
by Adarsh Mishra on Mar 31, 2009 03:47 PM
very right thing......for this reason only our brains are going abroad dut to lack of scope in the country so that there will be brain drain.........our country is loosing some brillient personalities.........
India will disintegrate into more than 1000 pieces in 50 years from now on.
Remove caste,surname from name , burn up all caste records in govt offices , else you will not even have the liberty of job and education in 50 years from now.
Re: If a strong law is not bought to remove caste,surname from na
by Bharatiya on Mar 31, 2009 03:50 PM
I agree with you Pranab. All sane people know this needs to be done.
The problem is they all expect someone else to do it.
Re: If a strong law is not bought to remove caste,surname from na
by Hari on Mar 31, 2009 03:46 PM
And also declare having kind of caste related associations crime.
"Caste" should be condemned and removed from Hindu society.
In Tamilnadu, esp under MK, there has been a systematic wipe out of the FC's form all govt offices. Now look at the inefficiency and incompetence of the civil servants (lawyers, police, administrators and bureaucrats) because of the reservation. I am not for the idea of reservation at all, but if its never going to be removed, then why not the poor FC's in that 40 lakh people profit from this idea. In India we have to live with something or we end up getting nothing. But not to worry as long as MK is there don't even think about it in the wildest of your dreams.
Like britishers, brahmins are colonising the pvt.sectors and other core field. Despite education and talent, many people are getting sidelined due to this neo colonisation by brahmins. Everyone will start liking this community only when they practise the policy of ' live and let live ' . Otherwise it is a hated community for generations to come.
Re: live and let live
by Rajni Mishra on Mar 31, 2009 03:46 PM
PLEASE GIVE JUST ONE EXAMPLE WHEN THE EDUCATED TALENTED PERSON HAS BEEN SIDELINES BECAUSE OF NEOCOLONISM OF BRAHMINS. OR YOU ARE JUST FA*TING THROUGH MOUTH?
Re: live and let live
by amresh jha on Mar 31, 2009 03:56 PM
Mr. Prabhakar you don't know anything about Brahmins.What India is today there is a lot of contribution of Brahmin community.As far as education and talent are considered you must be sure that no one can overpower Brahmins in any area.I will also put up here that you must be familiar of Brahmins talents and excellence in any field on this globe. If not,Go and check out the knowledge of the people based on their castes then you will come to know the fact.However I don't like discriminations based on caste,region,religion etc. but when any one will target us then he/she will not be spared at all.Jai Hind
Re: live and let live
by Pranab M on Mar 31, 2009 03:59 PM
Do you think someone scroing 90% and not getting a job , will treat " someone scoring 30% and grabbing the job " as human ever ? SC/ST/OBCs were not allowed to enter temples for 5000 years.
So reserve all temples in india for SC/ST/OBCs for 5000 years and scrap any other reservations in any form.
Re: Re: live and let live
by prabhakar timothy on Mar 31, 2009 03:45 PM
let it be the least among the minority. But it is the danger they pose to the other community through neo colonisation. Brahmins are the forerunners to teach how to belittle another community.
Re: Re: Re: live and let live
by Pranab M on Mar 31, 2009 03:59 PM
Do you think someone scroing 90% and not getting a job , will treat " someone scoring 30% and grabbing the job " as human ever ? SC/ST/OBCs were not allowed to enter temples for 5000 years.
So reserve all temples in india for SC/ST/OBCs for 5000 years and scrap any other reservations in any form.
Re: Re: live and let live
by parthasarathy sarathy on Mar 31, 2009 04:13 PM
It is not about quantity but about quality, which the Brahmins have in abundance. Electorally, quantity - and by extension, lack of quality - is required and hence, the Brahmins have been beaten down. Not by any other reason, OK?
Re: Re: live and let live
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 03:45 PM
am sure it cant be more than 1% of the population. so you mean, 1 crore ppl are taking the remaining 100 crore for a ride? the rest are sleeping? speak sense dude.
Re: Re: Re: live and let live
by parthasarathy sarathy on Mar 31, 2009 04:26 PM
FACT YAAR. See the results they have produced in any field and then say. Mathematics, Physics, Law, English, Arts, Culture, Music, What is it that they have not achieved? Nobel Laureate C.V.Raman, Maths genius Ramanujan - to name just two - are symbolic of it. The way Silicon Valley takes them in droves drives the nails hard into your coffin. Take off reservation and see the no.of Brahmins in the merit list and you will understand. You will not and you dare not do it, baby. Come on grow up, learning facts, instead of living in cocoons
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: live and let live
by parthasarathy sarathy on Mar 31, 2009 04:27 PM
lol is no argument dude, it is a meek acceptance that you have been defeated in your arguments.
