Re: no
by Narayan on Mar 31, 2009 04:20 PM
I agree No need for reservation because thats an insult. That creed had learnt to survive reservation or no reservation - they can make a mark where others struggle to even make a begining despite reservations.
If we are talking about social injustine, there are families in Brahmin community who require reservation. There are so many families which do not have any earning, no land etc. If govt want to do justice it has to also take responsibility of these families. It has to come out of vote politics and have to work as Indian govt
Re: Part of Brahmin community do need reservation
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 04:05 PM
no no no, dont start the cycle over and over again. let them perish. let the fittest survive. dude, ur forgetting the one major asset a human has, brains.
Re: Re: Part of Brahmin community do need reservation
by murali mu on Mar 31, 2009 04:12 PM
hey dude then why r u giving Reservation to back ward communities,is so that they dont have brain and only brahmin and upper community have brain. Remove resrvation for all and allow for survival of fittest
Re: Re: Re: Part of Brahmin community do need reservation
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 04:15 PM
murali, when i go to college or job, the only asset i flaunt is getting through both by merit. you want to bring in reservations and take away the only asset we have, the brains? all those who are using reservations are missing a vital point here. they are getting used to it and getting lax. it is playing to my advantage. hehehehehehe.
Re: Re: Re: Part of Brahmin community do need reservation
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 04:10 PM
missed the point again, didnt you? ya, eat those reservations and this is the IQ level you will have!
Personely I do Not agree with anykind of reservation but what so ever our politions are doing is wrong for country that is the only reason due to which i agree with only one kind of reservation
Make Only One & Single Reservation system and make it on permannenet basis. & Basis of Reservation is BPL (Below Povery Line.
If OBC/SC/ST s were harrased in past Govt should apologize for past mistake and pay each SC/ST/OBCs one lakh rupee as a compensation and force everybody to remove caste , creed ,etc from their name and burn all the caste records available and forget it.
The truth is all Brahmins come from Kashmir. Due to atrocities from present Afghanistan, Iran they were pushed out. Thousands of years they were doing the duties in Cashmere. They had only one language then - Sanskrit. Step by step they migrated to other parts of country and adopted the languages of that state. A major chunk went to Benaras. Some few Brahmin Families (present day kashmiri pandit) are left there.
It is only the weak with low confidence level and low will power need reservation. The strong will never need reservation to become successful. They will find out ways on their own to achieve the success they want. Dhirubhai Ambani being a good example of the same.
Re: Only the weak need reservation
by Siddique Ansari on Mar 31, 2009 04:05 PM
I do not know if Bharat Ratna Baba Saheb Bhim Rao Ambedkar rose to dazzling heights because of reservation. Does any body?
The ill effects of reverse discrimination by which there was an Anti-Brahmin wave in Tamil Nadu meant that talented competent Brahmins, Iyers and Iyengars sought greener pastures....
Many moved to Mumbai and Bangalore for better jobs...the less competent among them took up government jobs in mumbai or joined the railways...the really bright ones knocked on the doors of engineering and IT companies....
If Bangalore is a major IT hub today, 50% of the credit should go to talented brilliant Iyengar and Iyer Brahmins from Tamil Nadu...clearly, TN's loss was Bangalore's gain..
In many IT companies in Bangalore, the Tamils outnumber the local Kannadigas in terms of numbers and achivements..
You can never keep a competent Brahmin down in life...he will find a way to succeed!!
Re: Reverse discrimination in Tamil Nadu......
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 04:03 PM
thats called survival of the fittest. let those who are covered in reservations keep it with them. they dont realize what they are missing!
Re: Re: Reverse discrimination in Tamil Nadu......
by Bhasmasur Rakshas on Mar 31, 2009 04:06 PM
Absolutely!! The reserved guys in the IIMs, isnpite of an IIM tag barely get those 3 lakhs per annum bottom jobs in the IIMS..
And the Brahmins from SP Jain, NITIE, FMS etc who were denied admission to the IIMs due to reservation policy, do exceedingly well and work in foreign banks and consulting firms......the fact that they don't have the IIM tag on their CV does not stop them from becoming hugely successful....very well said my friend!!
I can say this cos i passed out from an IIM 5 years back, now with an IT company in Mumbai..
Re: Re: Reverse discrimination in Tamil Nadu......
by Vikram on Mar 31, 2009 04:11 PM
These reserved people Get what has been left over by Brahmins.. Previously Brahmins were major in numbers in Govt. Jobs... These SC/St entered into Govt. Jobs by means of Reservation... By this time Govt. jobs became less efficient compered to Private Jobs...
Brahmins moved to Private Jobs...
By the time there will be reservations in Private Jobs.. there will be something new Brahmins will find out..
People started pulling legs of Brahmins in INDIA... brahmins are moving out of INDIA..
Be it Gujjars, Meenas, Muslims or anbody, the demanding community & state govt politicise it & do not look reservation as reformation. Reservation should help those communities who could not progress. Reservation should be needbased & not castbased
RESERVATION was a issue when India became free; only for initail years of the development; now III generation is enjoying the fruits; why punish higher castes in the name of social justice. Still more than 30% people ar eunder BPL; why something is not done for them; why no body is checking population pressure; why India has a growth rate of more than 2.1%. Yo feel hurt seeing dirt towns, dirty roads, hungry people in soiled clothes; More than 60 yaers of Indpendent India; The nation per se is not poor but Govt has stopped supprot to people, New IIts and IIMs have come after 40 years. This should ahve been done continuosly. Why punish Brahmins, Punish agressors of the nation from Afghan, Kandhar who broke Khurhao temples; i am not a BJP man but the truth is you see all brken temples at Khujraho. Punish them. They are still perpetuating terrorrism.
Re: Reservation for Brahmin Community
by Chandrashekhar Udare on Mar 31, 2009 04:04 PM
Yes, in next century, that community will be backward, socially downtrodent
Re: Reservation for Brahmin Community
by Against Pseudos on Mar 31, 2009 03:59 PM
Actually what we need is a constitutional amendment "abolishing" all reservations.
Ambedkar - the founder of the reservation system - wanted reservations to be abolished after 10 years. Instead of which they have kept growing and growing.
Re: Re: Reservation for Brahmin Community
by Bhasmasur Rakshas on Mar 31, 2009 04:01 PM
Ambedar was never for much handholding...he always encouraged the lower castes in Maharashtra to fend for themselves.....he was a true great!!
