u seem to be in middle of ur political innings. in my view only congress party fits ur ideology.but check on its prospects in tamilnad.BJP is same as AIDMK they will have spy around & no freedom of speech.BOL
Madam maya show your big maya on this little known begging polictician. He is talking of reservations for brahmins. The caste which brought casteism into this world, treated others like animals, made money out of everything by their hypocrisy. Please maya show him your maya and throw him under your status
Re: Maya madam...
by purnima doddipatala on Mar 31, 2009 05:02 PM
a very good reply it is brahmins who see other caste even today like animal and only if somebody is in higher position just because they have no choice just show their false respect.if they can repay the insult they had done to other caste all the years when they did not allow people to enter into the temples i think then they can speak about reservation. u see we should remember every dog has its day
Re: Re: Maya madam...
by G.V.LAKSHMANAN LAKSHMANAN on Mar 31, 2009 05:11 PM
Please tell me who is practising two tumbler suystem in tamilnadu, it is not bharmins but other backward community who are humaling the dalits they are buliding wall to separate the dalits , please also note in UP / Bihar it is OBC which is treating the dalits badly and not Bharmins, We are suffering but suceesfull because we are working hard
Re: Re: Maya madam...
by Pranab M on Mar 31, 2009 05:06 PM
And you think someone scroring 90% and not getting a seat will ever consider some else scoring 305 and getting a seat as human being ever ?
Re: Maya madam...
by umesh bhardwaj on Mar 31, 2009 05:07 PM
Dear Dinesh has anybody treated you like animal and from where you got the information that brahmin made money. A Brahmin or Kshetriya or any person living in a village where there is no Electricity no raod no school no water how can a Brahmin or any person is FORWARD
Re: Re: Maya madam...
by dineshk on Mar 31, 2009 05:08 PM
i have a dozen brahmin friends and they are all hypocrites. they come to my home and eat non veg but i cant step into their house because i eat non veg...
Re: Re: Re: Maya madam...
by KESAVAN RAMACHANDRAN on Mar 31, 2009 05:13 PM
dinesh you are lying.no one in this century will forbid u from entering his house becuase you eat non-veg.it's good that you after all that diatribe have succinctly brought out the ethos of brahminism-it is not caste or creed but pure vegetrianism.when wthey cant see animals killed, why would they have you killed for anything now or in the past?
Re: Re: Re: Maya madam...
by G.V.LAKSHMANAN LAKSHMANAN on Mar 31, 2009 05:15 PM
Dear Dinesh, next time do not allow them into your house, I am Bharmin and lot my other caste friends visit and eat in my house. All I have achieved in my life is because my hard work without any goverment support . Please kick those friend of your house if they do not allow you to enter your house
Re: Maya madam...
by KESAVAN RAMACHANDRAN on Mar 31, 2009 05:10 PM
no brhamin made money.they still follow the idiom that to earn well, you have to study well and work hard.go to any brhamin home,this is what you will hera every parent telling his/her son/daughter.they dont own lands nor are tye moenyed.whatever they achieve is by dint of hard work.
I will urge all the hindus to be unitedand vote out anti hindu parties like congress,sp,bsp,cpm first. We can certainly look into our internal matter latter on. Dont let your vots get divided in the name of caste,creed etc.
There is one way out: 1.Bar the brahmins from entering into the temple atleast for 50 years. 2.Let a non-brahmin be the priest in all the temples. 3.Deny them education for atleast 50 years henceforth. 4. Outcaste them for 50 years. After 50 years let them talk about reservation
Re: reservation
by Pranab M on Mar 31, 2009 05:07 PM
Ok your sins are getting washed by someone's blood , I am just wondering how much blood has he got ?
Re: reservation
by Ram Sharma on Mar 31, 2009 05:17 PM
This is what comes naturally to ungrateful and treacherous Xians /muzlims in India. Why dont you F.O. to west?
Re: reservation
by KESAVAN RAMACHANDRAN on Mar 31, 2009 05:15 PM
timothy wonderful. no you yourslef have come out with the reaosns for brhamin's success.they are well educated,put in a lot of hard work despite their middle class leanings,that's why they excel in various fields.thet very fact that u are endorsing an opinion that they shouldnt be allowed to be educated shows your fear psychosis-you know from inside that you cannot compete with their hard work in the field of academics and win.what victory is it when u dont have a competitior at all?as for temples, every home is a temple.if you feel like worshipping god, worship one at home.temples do nto matter.
Re: reservation
by Naina Pandey on Mar 31, 2009 05:00 PM
All rubbish. Non-Brahmins are getting jobs due to reservations even with low percentage. They dont have to work hard.
Re: reservation
by Surya Prakash on Mar 31, 2009 05:03 PM
Timothy, If what you are saying is right and applies to SC/ST, 50 years of Reservations are over. It is already 62 years from Independence and time to get away with Reservations. Let economic criteria be the only one to get reservations.
Re: reservation
by Pranab M on Mar 31, 2009 04:56 PM
SC/STs do not want to study , do not want to work but just want a fat salary every month so that they can enjoy wine and a s s .
Re: Re: reservation
by krovvidi keshav on Mar 31, 2009 05:02 PM
Yes we wont or participate in voting to all dirty parties are giving they agenda which is full of bc / sc /st / etc people, they are the main cause to corruption
As a Brit who is right now in India on a biz visit, i can offer a neutral view...
Selection in higher institutions like the Indian institute of technology should be purely on merit cos you wanna optimize the use of resources procured through tax payers money... If you are gonna deploy those resources like Science lab, R&D centre etc on undeserving students, you are wasting tax payers money...selection should be purely on merit and any kind of reservation is unconstitutional and an infringement on the rights of deserving students!!
If at all there is reservation, it should only be on the ground of financial need and never based on caste or creed...unfortunately, many of your adminstrative officers and planners belive in the "two wrongs make a right" policy and thus we see an intake of substandard people in higher institutions in India..
All this can be pretty demoralizing for the really deserving candidates who can't even cancel their candidatures and get a refund for the investment they made in application forms and training courses....a sad state of affairs in a country characterized by lopsided development where there is concentration of wealth in a few hands...
Re: Reservation is hurting your nation.....
by Ram Sharma on Mar 31, 2009 05:57 PM
Delis,I endorse most of your views! The reservation system has really damaged the education/job scene in India. It should be scrapped completely.
Re: Reservation is hurting your nation.....
by Solanki Govindbhai on Mar 31, 2009 05:05 PM
In this corrupt country how can be ascertained the financial need of the person to decided whether the person deserve reservation benefit or not.
Govt will decide monthly income of the family in order to decide the whether the person should be given the reservation or not.
In this case, child of peon of the govt servent will not get reservation but child of the wealthy buiseness man will get the benefit.
Further, since years SC/ST were not allowed to study at all. Think what woule have happened had there not been reservation for them.
Even today, if you want admission in hostel, or you want to buy or rent a property, every were SC/ST are not allowed. Most of the sicieties are not allowing SC/ST in their societies.
In TN, Tamil Brahmin does not like to be associated with anything Tamil. That's OK.
They are the most vocal in agreeing with anything anti-Tamil. That OK.
They say may need reservation. That not OK.
I believe reservation for any community is wrong- because I might say I will never employ any brahmin - but in a market economy- if the productivity of X is twice as much as Y - I will employ X no matter what my bias is. The reason being if Y is employed by my competitor, I will be the looser.
So reservation is a bad thing for everybody even those who does not like brahmin much.
Let us have competition in the market place and let darwin theory do the rest.
Let Brahmin compete with everybody else, because I am pretty sure if somebody like me go to a Brahmin employer, he will already has made his opinion about me in the first 5 seconds he saw me, without even looking at my skill.
But this has in no way stop me from getting to where I want to go- this apply to anybody who use a can do attitude and stick to your principle in life.
Re: In TN
by Gopi on Mar 31, 2009 05:08 PM
Opinionated statements at best. "Tam-Brahm's do not like to be associated with anything Tamil. They are the most vocal in agreeing with anything anti-Tamil." - My big fat left FOOT.
What is Tamil and anti-Tamil that is being alluded to - wish there was some clarity and some specificity in this preposterous claim.
If reservation is wrong, why did all those rabidly pro-reservationists keep crowing from roof-tops that reservations are the only way to correct historical wrongs - does it not amount to a tacit understanding that the so called reserved category students need its crutches.
Frankly, these reserved category students have been gems themselves. There are so many of such "category" students I know of who have performed admirably both at academia, work and life - in many ways at par or above par.
The two wrongs make a right is a grossly tilted philosophy but that is what gets votes. Our people are happy toeing that line thinking these 40-50 lac Tam Brahms are the ones who will take away their opportunities and hence they need to be hounded out.
It suits them to toe the line because they are thrown crumbs and as long as there are people who find crumbs delicious, we will continue to see such measures being continued to death.
Re: In TN
by Numb Nut on Mar 31, 2009 04:57 PM
generalizing and pinpointing a particular community. I am pretty sure majority of brahmin Tamils are the ones who defend Tamil with all their hearts and minds. I have yet to meet a Tamil Iyer who does not like Tamil, dont know where you get your silly ideas from.
Once buddha came across a crowd(loud mouthed brahmins) who are about to throw a horse into fire for the socalled ashwatamata yaga.buddha had entered into verbal battle with these evil creatues(b)and finnally forced them to leave that horse.
