Re: Not
by YouCanDoIt on Mar 31, 2009 06:56 PM
It is not against this or that. Are you with yourself ? Do you belive, you have merit (dont read marks) to get proper job and have ability to work hard and lead good life? Then just do it.
Re: Not
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 06:51 PM
Brahminism is respecting other people, gathering knowledge and spreading spiritual tranquility to the world..If that is inhuman, immoral,arrogant and evil..then god help you
When merit is not valued that society is doomed.An institute or company if admits candidates on criteria other than merit God save them. If a community feels let down by other sections solution lies not in reservations but nurturing by other means by giving them free and compulsory education. In India reservations have not helped the downtrodden but only helped in the meritorious to flee the country. A layer who have gained benefits have prevented the real downtrodden to access the benefits and they are the real enemies of the lower members and not the brahmins who have moved to greener pastures where merit is valued and they are enriching that community.
Re: Merit vs reservation
by kttp on Mar 31, 2009 06:52 PM
there was no merit according to vedas and brahmins , thye just divided people into lower castes and hi=gher castes , and the lower castes were not given an opportunity to come up in society
Re: Re: Merit vs reservation
by pat ram on Mar 31, 2009 06:56 PM
In vedic period all the sections were equally placed. Every one was respected as long as they were doing what they were supposed to do, even today brahmins are respected only when they do what they are expected to do.
Re: Re: Merit vs reservation
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 06:56 PM
well reservations have been around for 20 years.. if u lazy bones where really wanting to come up... 20 years should be more than enough.....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Merit vs reservation
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:00 PM
its just an excuse.. u lazy fool... even if u have 1000000 years of reservations .. u will keep blaming for something what happened 10000000 years ago...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Merit vs reservation
by pat ram on Mar 31, 2009 07:19 PM
I will look like a snake as long as you think you are a rat. Come out of the hole and let us see each other as humans.
Re: Merit vs reservation
by shesh e on Mar 31, 2009 07:07 PM
Now a days it is all about rich and poor. If you are rich then you have all opportunities and carry respect. If you are poor, then irrespective of caste you are backward.
Re: Re: Merit vs reservation
by pat ram on Mar 31, 2009 07:23 PM
It is not respect it is fear. I have seen rich people respecting poor and poor people not respecting rich.
Re: Re: Re: hmm......
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 06:53 PM
good reply. Iyenkar, you keep basking in reservations. Me and all those who are not are going places. Enjoy!
As a Brahmin, I do not want reservation. It is the strength omy community. It teaches us to stand on our own feet. It does not push our 50% son/daughter to get medical degree but find new ways to succeed in life. In 60-70s, Brahmins succeeded by taking simple govt. jobs. Now all these jobs are going for SC/STs, fine, they are succeeding in IT/Medical fields. Tomorrow, they will find new avenues of success. You can not ask to become Tata once he is already successful for 100 years. Ask something new.
Re: Say NO to reservation - Brahmins
by Happy Indian on Mar 31, 2009 06:53 PM
I appreciate you. as a christian its almost embarassing that TN is giving reservation for Christians
Re: Say NO to reservation - Brahmins
by kttp on Mar 31, 2009 06:47 PM
good thats the spirit , us hud have thought of the consequences when u were oppressing people for centuries
Re: Re: Say NO to reservation - Brahmins
by YouCanDoIt on Mar 31, 2009 06:51 PM
But not all are going to think the same. See Maratha people, richest and strongest caste in MH is asking for reservation. This will go on ..and you will stay oppressed if you never showed any results in your life
Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 06:46 PM
What logic or sense does it make to say that you will punish the child for a crime his father has committed? If thats the case, all the ppl lodged in jails, their f@m!lies shud be cu11ed. Not that i support reservations, i dont need any, i will use my asset, my brains, which you seem to lack and still thriving on reservations. Wake up and realize what you are missing due to this reservations. Its making you and your ilk lax and the spirit of survival of the fittest is dying a slow death. You may not be effected by it, but somewhere down the line your decendents will curse for this policy.
Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 06:46 PM
I, a brahmin, dont want any reservation. I dont want to lose out on what the reserved categories are losing on due to assured livlihood. My f@ther groomed me from my childhood days to nurture my greatest asset, my brain. I passed college in merit, procured a job thru merit, and now in a relatively good position. The next cycle is just starting. I am grooming my ch!ldren to nurture and rely on their brains. They excel in every subject in school. They have realized the importance of education and am pretty positive they will make it big and stand on their 2 own feet without any reservations.
Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by Hot on Mar 31, 2009 06:51 PM
No people can force others to do something. You carried shits because you did not have the ability to do other things. If you had the ability to do other things you would not have carried shit.Why did not you refuse to carry shit at that time ?
Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 06:45 PM
How many brahmins have subjugated you...dont spread hatred without any meaning...
Re: Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by kttp on Mar 31, 2009 06:48 PM
read history , brahmins oppressed people and divided people into castes and made themselves superior to others, so thats why we have reservation now
Re: Re: Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by Hot on Mar 31, 2009 06:53 PM
No people can force others to do something. You carried shits because you did not have the ability to do other things. If you had the ability to do other things you would not have carried shit.Why did not you refuse to carry shit at that time ?
Re: Re: Re: brahmins are the real cunning peopel who
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 06:53 PM
All along you have been fighting the Brahmins for what their forefathers might or might not have done. But today the fight has turned towards communities other than Brahmins between themselves, like Nadars-vs-Thevars-vs-chettiars-sc/sts and so on so forth and we Brahmins are having great fun in witnessing the grand shows being enacted by you. Parameswaran
Re: 2.5%
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 06:47 PM
yes...muhammad ilyas...jobs should not be based on ability...but based on population...good thought...but will bring down the nations economy.
Re: 2.5%
by sam on Apr 01, 2009 11:30 AM
Yeah you are illegally here and also having so called"Minority" educational institutions. Such a scam and fraud and you talk about Brahmins who have done so much for the country,
Politicians will not consider Brahmins in any development agenda because they are not a Vote Bank. They would not be considered for any concessions even if they are poor, and dont even have a days meal. Politcians will target them with sadistic cruelty and also appease other castes to get votes...We have to live with this truth
Re: Why Brahmins will never be considered in Development Agenda
by Iyenkar on Mar 31, 2009 06:46 PM
britishers used brahmans to divide and conquer india
they themeselves knew that brahmans are the cunning
Re: Re: Why Brahmins will never be considered in Development Agen
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 06:49 PM
They used brahmins to divide India...but they divided India..still we have trade relationships with Brtain...why? should we not punish britian for dividing India
whenever i read rediff comments ..i can find one silly comment of vinod vinod ro ashiwn ramasamy, i dont know how these guys have time to write on rediff entire day. its surprising to see pakistani people employing represenatives to write trash on indian sites.