Reservations were enacted just because of the discriminations set by brahmins on other casts for centuries in this country. Govt did it to help the suppressed people to get educated and get jobs.
Even today if brahmins are wealthy they would have the habit of discriminating other humans. If they are poor, then will question the system of reservation, not realising that its all the fruits of sins(discrimination) committed by their ancestors.
Re: Reservation was created to fight discriminations
by kttp on Mar 31, 2009 07:15 PM
YEA ABSOLUTELY CORREC T, HOPE THE BUMMANS GET IT INTO THEIR CUNNING ONE SIDED BRAINS
Re: Re: Reservation was created to fight discriminations
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:42 PM
It is obvious with the message as to who is one sided and stereotyping a whole community...This is similar to the argument made by Hitler when he planned to persecute the Jews
AND I AM SUFFERING ALSO BECOS OF IT, I DONT HAVE RESERVATION BUT RESERVATION IS REQUIRED TO RIGHT THE HISTORIC INJUSTICE DONE TO THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND VEDIC SUPREMACY
Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED PEOPLE FOR
by Hot on Mar 31, 2009 07:19 PM
Reseravtion was need initially. . Now it has tuned into greed. Now reserved categories do not want to give up reseravtion even if they have IAS fathers. They want reservations for infinity. Reservation gives easy money, easy job. So it is necessary to keep the hatred against general category people alive to keep the reservation benefit for ever.
Re: Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED PEOPLE
by kttp on Mar 31, 2009 07:26 PM
cos i dont ahve reservation and the merit pool has shrunk u dumbhead
Re: Re: Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED PEO
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:30 PM
why whine? boss, dont you believe god has made us all equal? given us the same asset - the brain? hone it, sharpen it, stay on the top, strive, struggle, wriggle out of the competetion. Survive!
Re: Re: Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED PEO
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:33 PM
no he believes that since that descrimination which had taken place 100's of year before.. he believes that his brain is also gone...
Re: Re: Re: Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:35 PM
let them stay in that sh!t hole thinking. It is playing to our advantage!
Re: Re: Re: RESERVATION CAME UP ONLY BECOS BRAHMINS OPPRESSED PEO
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:35 PM
if u r hardworking u would have already got into the merit pool dumbhead... since u waste time on these discussion boards... u will not get into merit pool dumb head...
Whenever there is a riot resulting in killing, burning of public transport etc., you will never find a single Brahmin in these actions. If Brahmins are the intelligentia class, it is because they dont indulge in vandalism and use their time in studying and growing. Which is not the case with reserved category. To cite an example, when you travel through the tribal belts of Orissa, Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, WB in the early hours of the day, you find families sitting in open fields in circle and having country made liquor. How can you change these people through reservations? Brahmins dont do such things. Stop Brahmin bashing for once and try ask your wards to get into studies instead of indulging in vandalism, which is what the so called under privileged community students of TN are doing today. Parameswaran
Re: Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by smrsraja on Mar 31, 2009 07:17 PM
parameswaran K,
Yes, Brahmins wont involve themselves in riots, but what do best is stimulate the fight and take the back seat to watch. VHP/RSS are all doing that only.
Re: Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 07:12 PM
If you are saying that hooliganism and goondaism are cowardice, then I accept that Brahmins are cowards. Parameswaran
Re: Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by Pavan Nori on Mar 31, 2009 07:13 PM
Very much correct. They call it patience..even cows retaliate, if one crow dies 10's line up for it, if one ant dies 100's of ants line up.. but brahmins...never..always look themselves..not even at their community.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:20 PM
all through this board you will see 99% of bram's rejecting reservations, and click on my id and see my opinion.
Re: Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:12 PM
with people like u around.. we definately need terrorism and bomb blasts and porkistan around... coz these are the only things which being people together...
Re: Brahmins and Reservation
by Patriot on Mar 31, 2009 07:13 PM
Paramesh - I would not want someone to stop bashing Brahmins as Caste system was practised vigorously by them but I would want people to learn how fast they came out of it. So they practised for 1000 years, but given the Indian governments efforts , they don't practise it today. Most have moved on and without reservation have still gone to harvard, IIT, IIM by securing 99 or 100 %. So why not other communities learn from them? Will you ever hear from them that in last 60 years we have been not given opportunities to grow? Never...they have just taken things with a pinch of salt and the next generation has been trained to get 99 % or 100 % and nothing less. Its like "Please try to stop us if you can". They followed it with Private sector success in India and now our politicians are demanding reservation in Infosys and Cognizant.
These Bamans are the most cunning race on this planet. They created reservation in the first place. Created four varnas/casteism and placed them in top slot. They manipulated all other people for thousands of years. They cunningly took roles as priests. Every sacred ceremony should be performed by a priest only and a priest can be baman only. To save their asses, they created laws like "bramha hatya". So that no body should even think of killing a baman even he has committed a ghast crimes. Actually these bamans are the ones who divided people and ruled over them for thousands of years. They are the masters of this policy and we accuse British about it. People who opposed/challenged Baman's were placed as Shudras and unthinkable crimes were dashed out towards them. They encouraged all kinds of inhuman treatments, Untouchability towards shudras and not a single time they repented over it. Whenever there happened a sage/true saint, kind soul from other community, Bamans created hue and cry against them and plotted conspiracies against them. Example like sant Dhanyashwar, Tukaram and even Gandhiji were all murdered by them and declared as Samadhis to fool people. They discourage anyone and everyone who tried to be revolutionary, attempted to foster new ideas. Example is Shivaji who created the Swaraj concept. Even the Pune Bamans were against of Shivaji's Rajyabhishak because they thought he is of lower caste.
Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:08 PM
yes, i am cunning. i thank reservations for it. for denying me that govt seat in college, that govt job. i now hone my skills and make my brain sharper, stay on top of the food chain. i bribe ppl like you to get my work done in govt offices.
Re: Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 07:15 PM
I believe in myself whereas you are dependent on reservations. Take 100% jobs in Govt. and educational institutions, but still I will be on the top. You will only cry foul sitting at the bottom, looking up at my growth and financial strength which I have got despite lack of reservations. Parameswaran
Re: Re: Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:23 PM
sir, re read of my post suggested! i am a brahmin telling him that i dont need reservations.
Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 07:09 PM
The option to become a Brahmin was there for every body when caste system was created. Those who decided to lead a pious life, sought to become Brahmins. Others who did not want to give up drinking, eating meat, having multiple wives etc. fell in the rest of the category. Who is asking them not to become Brahmins even today by adopting to the regulations prescribed for Brahmins. They cannot and will not. Instead they will continue to do Brahmin bashing, while Brahmin, ignoring the ignonimity being meted out to him, is concentrating on his growth. This is making others jelous. Parameswaran
Re: Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:27 PM
lazy bones.. will remain lazy bones... before 1000's of years of after 1000's of years.. even if u ask people after 1000's of years(assuming there is no death..) they will still blame for something which happend 2000 years before.... sick mentality.. any way guyz the people who are having resrvations maintain your population... coz if u dont keep increasing u r population u r reservations will go off... so its not really based on what happend 1000's of years ago.. but its about...
Re: Re: Bamans are the most cunning people
by sacchibaat on Mar 31, 2009 07:31 PM
Well, there is a doubt about this. There is a theory that when Manu created four varnas, anyone and anybody could switch from their layers but this later on stopped permanently after sometime. Examples are from Ramayan, Mahabharat only. Why Shambu - a shudra was killed by Ram for performing meditation because meditation was right of Baman only. Why Karna had to bear so much insult in his life even though he was so good? Because the layers became rigid and nobody was allowed to switch them irrespective of their capabilities. Bamans made them rigid. The life style was more of a show-off for others so that there's a seperate identity for ruling a top slot, to be treated with respect. Nodoubt, they were capable of pulling it off and had they used their abilities and intelligence for the greater good of the society, this country woule have made lot of progress on all fronts but they misused their power and weakened this society for ages.
The message is for the brahmins where it is really true.. No govt jobs are offered to brahmins.any meeting you hear person in the stage speak rotten about brahmins.. It was before 60 to 70 years where things were different and now it has changed a lot .. We need to have a mind set stating all are INDIANS .. only in this country we see caste discrimination .. in aborad for example you see in USA people themselves proud to be called as americans nor in UK as britsh.. We need to change and change will be for good and best ...
Re: let us hope for the best
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:00 PM
thanks to reservations, if my countries govt jobs have closed their doors to me, it has opened other doors. I strive to stay on top, from day one. My K!ds struggle to stay on top. Thank reservations, you have honed my skills further by denying me that govt post. I am sharper, more alert and stay on top the food chain.
Re: change
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 06:59 PM
Brahmins never sought reservations inspite the oppression being meted out to them by TN. They are a lot taught to stand by their own stead and deeds and never beg before people. In reality other communities have been begging. Manu never said that a Brahmin born to a Brahmin father should be a Brahmin. A Brahmin becomes Brahman by his deeds. There are certain regulations for Brahmins. They should not drink, smoke, eat meat, have extra marital sex etc. Can you practice that Vinod. If you do, you can also have a sacred thread and become a Brahmin. Become a Brahmin by your actions instead of going the negative way. Parameswaran
Re: Re: change
by sacchibaat on Mar 31, 2009 07:23 PM
Well, there is a doubt about this. There is a theory that when Manu created four varnas, anyone and anybody could switch from their layers but this later on stopped permanently after sometime. Examples are from Ramayan, Mahabharat only. Why Shambu - a shudra was killed by Ram for performing meditation because meditation was right of Baman only. Why Karna had to bear so much insult in his life even though he was so good? Because the layers became rigid and nobody was allowed to switch them irrespective of their capabilities. Bamans made them rigid. The life style was more of a show-off for others so that there's a seperate identity for ruling a top slot, to be treated with respect. Nodoubt, they were capable of pulling it off and had they used their abilities and intelligence for the greater good of the society, this country woule have made lot of progress on all fronts but they misused their power and weakened this society for ages.
Re: Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:30 PM
This Ramyana and Mahabharata were written by Shudras...Fisherman Vyasa and Hunter Valmiki...what about that...Is that not proof enough for Brahminism respecting people beyond caste..
Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:05 PM
Parameswaram,Agree and I would like to add...becoming a Brahmin is not a credit...it is a sacrifice..It is dedicating your life to attaining knowledge and spreading spiritual tranquility..Lot of Brahmins have gone astray from this path...It does not mean , the community or the dedication should be punished or looked down upon..
Re: Re: change
by Guru on Mar 31, 2009 07:12 PM
hey buddy, I don't drink , I don't smoke , I am veggie and I am virgin at 30.. forget about extra marital. Can you consider me as Brahmin ? Those practices are nothing to do caste . Thats coming from way you have been brought up. Come on man ....what you are talking is utter trash . I have tamil brahmin roommate who smokes / drink / eat meat , but he does sandhyavadhanam as well.
Re: Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:22 PM
I agree with you Guru...your friend is not a Brahmin...by life..he might be by birth...If you follow a good life...you cerainly are a Brahmin...just remember Mahabharata and Ramayana were written by a Fisherman, Vyasa and Hunter, Valmiki...everyone including Brahmin elders of those days revered them and followed their teachings...Hindu Philosophy is beyond the caste of birth..it is by caste of practice. But here we are discussing a political issue which is currently following caste by birth policy and awarding reservations to many undeserving candidates
Re: change
by Pavan Nori on Mar 31, 2009 07:06 PM
Vinod the more you hate them will they become more ferocious? make any judicious decisions? No..... why this stop man.
Re: change
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 06:56 PM
you keep basking in reservations, and will never realize that it has played to my advantage. thanks br0.
Re: Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:01 PM
I have only one advise for vinod..learn more...all the hatred in you mind will go...knowledge is the only route to balance...lack of knowledge will bring in imbalance...like it happened during the Islamic rule and British rule of India
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:09 PM
I learnt..I was born like you..as a normal 3.5 Kg child with no knowledge..everything I learned with you only...the difference is that we have different biases...thats all...So dont call me a bluff..its my opinion..if you dont agree...good for you..I never claim to be intelligent...If you have felt so..I cannot help it
Re: Re: Re: change
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:04 PM
there is a good chance that he will become a ceo.. coz it needs hardwork not a bunch of excuses which dates 100's of years back...
Re: Re: Re: change
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:04 PM
i knw what i am, and i know where i left you behind. so, i dont mind being in any post, untill i am keeping my head high.
Thanks reservations again for denying me that govt job!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:12 PM
Yes, there is pain Iyenkar...but we have outlived it...when we see our name not on the list of admissions or jobs even if we have scored 90%...and when our rich class mate who scored 50% gets one..We have let blood tears...but we have come beyond that and lead a respectable life without complaining or seeking help of anyone...
if the m*fuc*king politicians.. stand by their words of telling history.. they must ask for reservations in olympics for indians.... coz british has oppressed us for centuries...
Re: if...
by kalyan ram on Mar 31, 2009 06:56 PM
politicians should ask for reservations in great britain for centuries of oppression by british colonialists......and also shoudl dare to ask reservations for indians in persia(iran), turkey(moghuls), afghanistan for oppression of muslim invaders on indians for centuries....
Re: Re: if...
by Pranav B on Mar 31, 2009 07:01 PM
Going by the logic, The opperssion happened in India. The opperessors generations are still living in India. Why not deny job and education reservations to them?
