when every community is fighting for reservation why not brahimins. if the corrupt system started by nehru is not discountinued soon then india will burn for reservation
There is no end if every community goes on asking for reservation to them.All this ruppus is cropping up because of the defective reservation policy adopted & being extended by the successive govts from time to time just to appease a section of the people in their bid to woo the latter for getting votes. Reservation to certain specified categories intiated at the beginning of our Constitution was to benefit such categories till a particular time by which they were supposed to have been placed on the equal footing with other communities.But unfortunately this has been & is being abused by the beneficiaries & the govts-the former having tasted the privileges under the policy do not wish to be delinked with it & expect it to continue for generations & the latter for its own political reasons.In the process, those enjoying the benefit of reservation are becoming forward & the forward coming under general category are getting relegated to the status of backwardness.This is not at all social justice that was aimed at while formulating the reservation policy.If every facet of life is to be determined according to the reservation for each community,it is feared that Indian nation gets strifed off into pieces.Enough is enough!It is time for us to treat every one on equal footing & scrap the reservations in all spheres of Indian life.The nationality of India is the only community that is applicable to all the people of our great country.Let us not fall pray to the political tricks.
SVe Shekar is talking sense when he seeking reservation for Brahmins. This lot has been long neglected, ostracised and condemned for no fault of the current generation. These guys neither belong to the land they were born nor to the land they seek work. They are truly the jews of India. No wonder you find them all in the USA. I think we should stop all these irrational policies and institute meritocracy. Vinod doesnt seem to know his history well. Going by his comment the whole of North India will have to be dereserved!
Re: Reservation for Brahmins
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 08:14 PM
vinod didnt learn history geography or anything thats y he is askin for reservations...
Tambras is doing excellent work in uniting brahmins, helping economically weaker brahmins with own funds. This Sekar is trying to hijack the community in his own interest because he is ditched by his political leader. He will do well if he joins Tambras instead.
Re: S V Sekar Should he represent Brahmins
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 08:12 PM
Let him do that...I dont mind as long the debate rings the bell in deaf ears of authorities...whether Tambras or Shekar..the point is more important not the medium
Re: Re: Re: S V Sekar Should he represent Brahmins
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 08:19 PM
Nothing wrong in making a point while also helping yourself...nobody is stopping efforts by any organization or individual..all efforts are appreciated...Both Shekar and Tambras can work together or in parallel...no one is cannibalizing another persons contribution...This is not a popularity contest...it is a serious social issue...which has not been addressed for the last 50 years
Re: Re: Re: Re: S V Sekar Should he represent Brahmins
by pat ram on Mar 31, 2009 08:24 PM
That it is a serious social issue was identified by Tambras long back and it has already done enormous work for the cause of poor brahmins with very little help from well to do sections. Many in the community are not even aware of.
Govt must implement Reservations in Private Institutions, Temples, Judiciary and in Defense services.
* 50% of Temple Priests/Supreme Court Judges/Defense Staff must be from OBC communities. * 35% Temple Priests/Supreme Court Judges/Defense Staff must be from Dalits and Tribals. * Remaining Temple Priests/Supreme Court Judges/Defense Staff must be from other Castes.
You must do this till 85% of all registered marriages in India are INTER-CASTE or INTER-FAITH. This is the only way to STOP India from dis-integrating.
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 08:07 PM
In Kerala Marxists tried to do this. But after trying for several decades, today all temples are having only Namboodiri Brahmin priests - others did not want to go through the rigours of Brahmanical life. Parameswaran
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by sundar on Mar 31, 2009 08:17 PM
eat non veg in temple and do pooa..not even ur obc will come 2 temple....chennai is a best example..the MK rule had NB guys but all fled away in chennai temples..hahahha
Thanks for rising the voice on behalf of us. Sattanathapuram Venkataraman Shekher: It should be a national debate and also must be published as headlines in all the news papers and news channels.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 08:22 PM
i think reservations should be like... this... hardworking category,lazy bums,very lazy bums,as good as being dead category....
Re: how dare
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:59 PM
So you mean communities who have contributed to the countries growth only should be awarded reservation. Then why are we following caste based system...Why not abolish it? Also request you to send a list of those communities who have contributed a lot to Indian Society to the respective authorities...
Re: Re: how dare
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 08:11 PM
if brahmins have contributed nothing... what did u contribute which makes u ask for reservations?
Yes, There is pain...but we have outlived it...when we see our name not on the list of admissions or jobs even if we have scored 90%...and when our rich class mate who scored 50% gets one..We have let blood tears...but we have come beyond that and lead a respectable life without complaining or seeking help of anyone...This issue raised by Shekar is a starting point from where this disparity can be removed...and merit can be awarded...I sincerely hope this sparks a debate nationwide to abolish reservations based on caste and award merit...also helping financially backward duly
Re: There is pain
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 07:54 PM
yea u wont get those seats... enter vinodvinod types... they will study half and come and build buildings with half the strength... rockets which will got half the distance.... superb.. bindhaas....and we are saying that we are competing with japan and china... we will be able to compete with japan and china provided reservations are bought into what people also...
Re: There is pain
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:49 PM
but it makes it all the more sweet. At the end of the day, i am triumphant, leaving everyone behind. No pain no gain.
Re: Re: There is pain
by sundar on Mar 31, 2009 07:52 PM
iam happy u r extra brilliant..but some intelligent or ONLY brilliant ppl like me have suffered due 2 this ...i scored 93% and got good cut off in 2 but am denied my favourite seat..
Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:56 PM
am not trying to make a point, but seeing on the brighter side. And no sir, am not displaying no extra intelligance. Its no rocket science. When one is used to get everything easily, you start losing it gradually.
Re: Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by sundar on Mar 31, 2009 08:10 PM
when brahmin score 90% marks and loses to 70% mark scored non brahmin..he ll feel the pain like me .. i meant this
Re: There is pain
by sundar on Mar 31, 2009 07:50 PM
great point..iam a victim of that..i scored 93% and got good cut off in 2 but am denied my favourite seat.. visit febas.org and enrol
Re: Re: There is pain
by Arun Srinivas on Mar 31, 2009 07:54 PM
sundar, take IT companies. I worked with 3 of the big names. i do see a lot of SC/ST/OBC guys coming there but its very rare you see a top job held by these guys. Reservations have played to our gain. Our reserved category folks are used to getting everything like a cake walk. The same reservations have made us to stay on the top, to survive, to hone our brains, our analytical skills. Reservations would have given us nothing but laxity. Cheer up man!
Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by sundar on Mar 31, 2009 08:02 PM
great ..thats their destiny..whenever rules and talent comes these reserved folks ll be pushed afar naturally..but u see in MLA post in TN ..only JJ and sveshekher is brahmin ...JJ case is different.. then only sve shekher is there..once a rule of 7% comes..it ll useful 2 poor/intelligent dudes of brahmins in TN or india..when we have 6-7 mlas things will be diff 4 midclass/intelligent brahmins like me...visit febas.org and contribute anything dude
Re: There is pain
by vinod vinod on Mar 31, 2009 07:50 PM
no country gives benefits or reservations to a community which opporsed ppl for 2000yrs.so u will feel pain for anthr 2000yrs
Re: Re: There is pain
by Venkat on Mar 31, 2009 08:10 PM
Now I know where you come from! I guess you don’t know the history at all and to deny the facts, you blame others of your incompetence. If there were no Brahmins, your name wouldn’t be Vinod anymore...you would have been Vicky Dicks!
Re: Re: There is pain
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 07:53 PM
Thanks Vinod...so you mean to say we will be opressed for the next 2000 years like we are being now...Last time I heard this said something similiar was by a person name Hitler
Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by parameswaran K on Mar 31, 2009 08:03 PM
Vinodji. We never complained as you do day in and day out. See people like, Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, Dr. C.V.Raman, Dr. Subramaniam Chandrasekhar, Rt. Hon. Srinivasa Iyenger, mathematician Ramanujan, Saint Thyagaraja to name a few. All were Brahmins. Even Dr. Abdul Kalam says that he is a Brahmin Muslim because he lived near an Agraharam in Rameswaram and had his initial learnings from the Brahmin community. Can you name a single scholarly person from other communities, despite the reservations for 60 years. You cannot because you knew only Brahmin bashing. Parameswaran
Re: Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by dudehere on Mar 31, 2009 08:03 PM
its not there in cities u dumb shit... besides inspite of all thse complaints.. if kalam can become a president then any person can.... the only thing which separates others form lazy bones is "hardwork"...
Re: Re: Re: Re: There is pain
by Shrey Anand on Mar 31, 2009 08:02 PM
Untouchability is practiced in the large scale in the newest form called reservation, untouchability against Brahmins..denying their rights...denying their merit...Two wrongs dont make a right, Iyenkar
