I don't understand the concept of reservation based on caste system after 60 years of independence. If reservations are needed there shud be other criteria, like income etc. Now here is one live example of this reservation system. Two friends(1 upper class & 1 SC category) studied in same school, same tuitions, same facilities provided by both parents. SC category father earning more than other father. But while in Medical entrance exam upper class student getting 100 rank and SC friend getting 300. but SC friend getting admission in good college due to reservation and upper getting admission in little less good college despite of good rank. Now tell me is this good way to judge people. People doing more hard work leaving behind due to this reservation system. There shud be some criteria that u can take advantage of reservation system in one generation, or based on ur household income. But no, kids of IAS officers who themself became IAS on reservations are again getting reservations in all fields.
in the olden days there was just so much carrying capacity to the land and surpluses were scanty , hence monopolised by the few ; obviously on self serving hereditary bases.
None of our forbears would have waived an opportunity to dominate the apex of the social pecking order ; for that matter none of US would do so , the odd exception excepting , so the ancient indignities of the caste system should be less and less lamented from hence.Let us team up to win the global competetion !
The old era of bottlenecks and constraints are waiting just around the corner ; it is imperative that we stop trying to find scapegoats and try and succeed in bringing our country on par with serious and pitiless competetors who have already got their act together a long time ahead of us.
As ole Ben Franklin had reputedly said 'we can either hang together or hang separately'.
As per the purnas, the categories like Brahmin Vasya were categorised based on the work they performed. Vaysya did business, Brahmin did prayers and rituals. Now a days we see the other way round with exception of s few.. So this discussion is not on brahmnins but people with exconomically poor background. Help people who struggle to get a descent meal
The word Brahmin comes from Brahman. The word Brahman means devotees of Lord Brahma which means spritual people who perform rituals devoted to Lord Brahma. If I call non Brahmins as non Brahmans it will offend them because that will say that they are not devotees of Lord Brahma. By calling oueselves non Brahmins is a sin because it will say that we are not devotees of creater. Think about it.
Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by doyouthinkIcare on Apr 01, 2009 12:20 AM
spoken like a true facsist. HOld on to your caste system and the rest of the world will over take you India.
Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by Bharat K on Apr 01, 2009 12:22 AM
Just FYI, Shudras are the ones who sell their services for money as per Vedas. As per Vedas : Brahmin is the one who follows guidlines laid out by Brahma in true spirit and in a truthful way. Brahmin is the one who keeps practicing and advising the truthful ways of life. One will need to attain brahminism by deeds and will not get born with it. Similarly Vaisyas are those who do business and trade in the services....remember Vaisyas are not the ones who manufacture goods...manufacturing of the goods lies with Sudras as they sell their skill or service for money. Kshatriyas are those who are warrior community...their primary profession is to defend country just like armed forces do today.. hence kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra were considered at same level....but Brahmin or Brahman was considered supreme or the best as this person was to earn Brahminical stature through his/her deeds not not by birth as others did. all others earned inheritance in the form of money, kingdom or profession or manufacturing units et al...but anyone could follow the path of truth and become a Brahmin by his/her deeds...the day Brahminisim was inherited, the Indian society collapsed. Today all those guys who you see claim themselves to be Brahmins are not Brahmins at all because they sell their services for money..they are indeed Sudras as per vedic definition
Re: Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by Vikram Cavale on Apr 01, 2009 09:04 AM
We so called educated Indians - of all castes - are Shudras because we work for the West forgetting about the gr8 motherland that is Bharat! Consumerism is just ruining everything. We feel development means having more pubs bars, nightclubs, independent women, more malls, glass buildings, westerns attire, western mindset, having to earn bread in a western country- due to corruption politics and lack of opportunities back home for so many people, etc. Todays so called education system is leading us to this! What a waste it is. Revert back to the age old Vedic education system of working in synch with nature. Only then will Bharat and Bharatvasis benefit. We are all culprit for creating an India that you see today. We the Indians are responsible for all the bad things happening. No point blaming Brahmins or Hinduism or Vedas or Shudras or other such concepts integral to Bharat...But then even by writing all this I am being a hypocrite!
Re: Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 12:24 AM
The brahmins do not have two horns nor the shudras have a tail to be ashamed of. Caste system in Vedic era was based on profession and not by birth. Ved Vyasa was the son of a fisher-woaman and Valmiki was a tribal.
Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by dudehere on Apr 01, 2009 12:29 AM
yea dang is a porki... hey dang do a good thing for the world blow yourslves up in the name of u r all*ah... u will get reservation for u r 72 things...
Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by KHANDE KRISHNA on Apr 01, 2009 12:27 AM
yeah "Dr Dang".Kshatriyas do not have brains, all they know is to drink military rum meant for horses and fight. What rum is meant for horses..?I have'nt ever seen baniyas selling their mothers for money. Please use brains while making any statements. I really doubt on what kind of Doctor you are, and who gave you you drink horse's piss, and you sell your sisters,daughters..? and got your doctorate certificate..?
Re: Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 12:31 AM
They are selling minor daugh_ters to toothless Arabs at Hyderabad, Calicut, Dacca,Lahore, etc! So he cannot think beyond that.
Re: Brahmins are more intelligent than other castes
by dudehere on Apr 01, 2009 12:31 AM
beware of porki.. b/tards these porkis are trying to divide india... have u noticed... t*rrorists dont strike politicians.. coz they know politicians do a better job of dividing this country than the porkis.... wake up guyz... come out of u r ca*ste re*ligion... see eye to eye with these porkis...
It is time to reverse roles, Brahmins have taken lot of tensions, NOW it is time for Dalits to come to front. Vote BSP, vote Dalits and have Dalit PM. USA has aborginal/Afro, it is time for india to have an Real Aborginal.
Not the fakes like Paswan, Lallo, etc.
Brahmins need to chill out and take backseat and also be given reservation. They have faught long enough, it is time for them to chill, make money and relax on beach. They will be called again once they have relaxed enough.
There is no end if every community goes on asking for reservation to them.All this heart burn is cropping up because of the defective reservation policy adopted & being extended by the successive govts from time to time just to appease a section of the people in their bid to woo the latter for getting votes. Reservation to certain specified categories intiated at the beginning of our Constitution was to benefit such categories till a particular time by which they were supposed to have been placed on the equal footing with other communities.But unfortunately this has been & is being abused by the beneficiaries & the govts-the former having tasted the privileges under the policy do not wish to be delinked with it & expect it to continue for generations & the latter for its own political reasons.In the process, those enjoying the benefit of reservation are becoming forward & the forward coming under general category are getting relegated to the status of backwardness.This is not at all social justice that was aimed at while formulating the reservation policy.If every facet of life is to be determined according to the reservation for each community,it is feared that Indian nation gets strifed off into pieces.Enough is enough!It is time for us to treat every one on equal footing & scrap the reservations in all spheres of Indian life.The nationality of India is the only community that is applicable to all the people of our great country.Let us not fall pray to the political tricks.
Brahmins are more intelligent and hardworking people than others but unfortunately some of them are poor and economically backward. Consideration should be given for them.
Re: Brahmins are intelligent people
by Raja yadav on Mar 31, 2009 11:55 PM
for the last 5000 years tamilnadu has been ruled by tamil dynasties such as chera, chola, pandya and pallava. during those period Brahmins were very poor and performed service in temples to get food. but during the british occupation due to their intelligence they were employed in good administrative postions. so when britishers left the country generally brahmins were hated in tamilnadu due to them serving the british loyally. and thats the reason they are hated in tamilnadu. I beleive brahmins in tamilnadu / south india should be given quota. they live in poor conditions in slums.
Re: A Tamil Brahmin shot six family members in California
by KHANDE KRISHNA on Apr 01, 2009 12:42 AM
hi Dang you are still alive bcoz u got one..?For your information he is niether a tamilian nor a brahmin. Rediff discussion board should set some minimum eligiblity like people only with common sense and brains should be able to log in and write the comments
Re: brahmins
by RAJ KONA on Mar 31, 2009 11:47 PM
There has to be reconciliation. Just because your ancestors got treated badly, why does this generation have to suffer. Being Brahmin is not a sin just like being any other caste is not. And please do not generalise certain behavior to a particular caste. Brahmins in Kerela are the ones that took to the communist movement and lifted the other castes up. Please read up your history.
Re: brahmins
by VIshal on Mar 31, 2009 11:48 PM
Hin dutva forces to deliberately frame Musl ims as the menacing 'other' so that the subaltern castes can be mobilized against them rather that against their REAL OPPRESSORS —the Hind u ELITES ( upper ca ste )—and so that, in the process a unfied Hin du vote bank, transcending cas te/class divisions could be built up. Hind utva forces are making well-planned attempts of wooing the Dal its, Ad ivasis and Backward Ca stes through various populist schemes and Hinduisa tion drives, the aim simply being to co-opt them and pit them against Musli ms and, in this way, stave off the threat that these sections might ever seek to mobilize against caste Hin du hegemony.
